andycap Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Keep the faith lads Mitchell is on the case with his stubble it's only a matter of time that Guehi signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 15 minutes ago, Ellis H said: Over the last 2 seasons Murphy has 17 attacking returns in the equivalent of 27 games in the league. He’s not the solution but he’s far from a problem. Do you think he's CL standard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: No idea. Probably not. From their size and what I've seen of them - I thought Schar, Guehi (and Konsa) weren't the best in the air at winning defensive duels. So this just supports what i observed. I thought Schar had improved in that aspect, he is aggressive in general including the air. And maybe he has but it didn't take this to show me that he's not an aerially dominant CB. Likewise for Guehi. For a big lad - I don't even think Botman is THAT good in the air. Lascelles is the best at the club in the air and arguably our worst CB - so maybe it's not that important but for £60m I need some standout attributes. The other stats are troubling for Guehi too. It's not obvious what he's meant to be really good at. Schar you can see his ball progression via passing and dribbles are among the highest in the stats. That is the Schar USP. What's the Guehi USP? From what I've seen it's pace and comfort on the ball under pressure. Need a bit more than that for £60m imo. I think you are underestimating how well he brings the ball out from the back and how good his passing range is. I also think he will be better suited to a pressing game, as he likes to engage aggressively early. Let's see. I think it's a great signing personally. Especially at 24 years of age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 He’s looked a little slow when I’ve seen him up here, he’s a huge unit, one of those players when you see them in the flesh you think fuck me he’s way bigger than I thought. There’s definitely potential for further improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 13 minutes ago, TRon said: Do you think he's CL standard? Are we in the CL this season like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, TRon said: Do you think he's CL standard? No, but I think he’s going under the radar a bit in terms of how handy he’s been for us. He’ll be a good backup option for whoever comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 This is where Mitchell earns his money and reputation. That’s why I think it’ll get done. also we’ve been crying out for an upgrade for a right winger for years so I wouldn’t be happy if this means there’s no RW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Love Guehi me. Think I first really noticed him in 1-0 home where Miggy stuck that one in top corner. Was probably his composure on the ball that stood out. Reckon he’s the kind of player that Eddie just improves and improves. So no qualms from me about paying top dollar for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 16 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think you are underestimating how well he brings the ball out from the back and how good his passing range is. I also think he will be better suited to a pressing game, as he likes to engage aggressively early. Let's see. I think it's a great signing personally. Especially at 24 years of age. im skeptical of advanced statistical analyses of defenders. Too dependent on club style of play etc. Eye test much more important imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Upthemags said: im skeptical of advanced statistical analyses of defenders. Too dependent on club style of play etc. Eye test much more important imo Yeah, I agree. Have to at least take both into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Ornstein clearly have a good source at Palace, he was the one to have the exlusives on Olise also. Hopefully the deal is further than people think and not that they’re just using us to get a better deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Another one who is usually bang on with Palace news: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Seems his biggest strength is distribution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, Andy84 said: Seems his biggest strength is distribution? Pace, distribution, technique. Weak point is his height as he's only 6ft (which is the best height a human can be, but short for a CB). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 36 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think you are underestimating how well he brings the ball out from the back and how good his passing range is. I also think he will be better suited to a pressing game, as he likes to engage aggressively early. Let's see. I think it's a great signing personally. Especially at 24 years of age. Agree with your second point. If he was so great at passing and carrying the ball - it would be more evident in the stats imo. Again eye test. He looks super comfortable on the ball. Good under the pressure and looks like he could be encouraged to bring it out more. But Anderson always looked the progressive passer. Edited August 2 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agree with your second point. If he was so great at passing and carrying the ball - it would be more evident in the stats imo. Again eye test. He looks super comfortable on the ball. Good under the pressure and looks like he could be encouraged to bring it out more. But Anderson always looked the progressive passer. 87.2% passing accuracy last year. Was in the 95% range for England right before the Euros. At least according to the BBC. Edited August 2 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 42 minutes ago, TRon said: Do you think he's CL standard? He’s average at best in terms of premier league players. Defo good enough for lower half. He wouldn’t get into any top eight team (barring us) We need to aim higher , ideal for early cup games , or impact sub at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 3 hours ago, Scoot said: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/transfer-window-latest-news-deals-premier-league-f2xxwj2d5 Merino for £25mil is a bit of a bargain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Agree with your second point. If he was so great at passing and carrying the ball - it would be more evident in the stats imo. Again eye test. He looks super comfortable on the ball. Good under the pressure and looks like he could be encouraged to bring it out more. But Anderson always looked the progressive passer. He is no slouch passing the ball. These are his full passing numbers from last year: Edited August 2 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 This cunt signed yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 43 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Are we in the CL this season like? Do you think you get in the CL with players who aren't CL standard then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just now, TRon said: Do you think you get in the CL with players who aren't CL standard then? Certainly possible. Given they won’t be playing against the best in Europe in order to qualify. And let’s face it, ‘the best in Europe’ varies widely and wildly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Do you think you get in the CL with players who aren't CL standard then? We have done it without already though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Certainly possible. Given they won’t be playing against the best in Europe in order to qualify. And let’s face it, ‘the best in Europe’ varies widely and wildly. But we'll be playing against the best in the PL, and to qualify for CL we'd have to go head to head with Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea et al. That's not to say it's impossible, but obviously the more CL standard players you have, the better chances of qualifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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