Paully Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Always liked that Souness bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kanj Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 See, then we should be challening this fucking thing. The rule allows for subjectivity and the ref was 100% wrong. The contact was 100% negligible, if it wasnt negligible, the bloke wouldn't havent be joking and chuckling 2 mins later. I still believe that red cards need 100% video review, context needs to be applied to the events leading up and after. If you're smiling and acting like you got away with something then root that out too. It's a mockery of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Mind you, maybe it wasn't negligible, given how fucking awful he was the rest of the game. Maybe has concussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Kanji said: See, then we should be challening this fucking thing. The rule allows for subjectivity and the ref was 100% wrong. The contact was 100% negligible, if it wasnt negligible, the bloke wouldn't havent be joking and chuckling 2 mins later. I still believe that red cards need 100% video review, context needs to be applied to the events leading up and after. If you're smiling and acting like you got away with something then root that out too. It's a mockery of the game. Dermot on ref watch said in pre-season briefings refs were told that the slightest movement of the head towards an opponent should be red carded. So we have another case of PGMOL not following the laws of the game but doing whatever they fancy, like disallowing goals for touching absolutely anybody's hand a few years ago. How the fuck do they get away with making up their own laws? Edited August 19 by DahnSahf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 The most ridiculous part in all this is how he's being referred to as simply "Diaz" by everyone. He was plain old Ben Brereton from Stoke until he somehow remembered his mother was Chilean in 2021. Barely speaks a word of Spanish by all accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Looks like a tramp and has way less class than one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: Looks like a tramp and has way less class than one Hope he gets beaten to death with his own stick and bindle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, gbandit said: Looks like a tramp and has way less class than one At a glance and maybe it's just me, but I think if he lopped off that greasy barnet, he'd look like Carvajal. Not coincidentally, another massive cheating cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Kanji said: See, then we should be challening this fucking thing. The rule allows for subjectivity and the ref was 100% wrong. The contact was 100% negligible, if it wasnt negligible, the bloke wouldn't havent be joking and chuckling 2 mins later. I still believe that red cards need 100% video review, context needs to be applied to the events leading up and after. If you're smiling and acting like you got away with something then root that out too. It's a mockery of the game. Some good points but missed the crucial point Schar walks towards and leans towards the yeti aggressively it was the yeti who moved his head swiftly forward to ensure contact was made. If any contact is a red then Schar wasn’t responsible for the head to head contact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 5 hours ago, Skeletor said: Always liked that Souness bloke. Them saying the rule says you push your face in someone’s is a red card are actually wrong, it states violent conduct and you could argue the push from Diaz was also violent conduct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Some good points but missed the crucial point Schar walks towards and leans towards the yeti aggressively it was the yeti who moved his head swiftly forward to ensure contact was made. If any contact is a red then Schar wasn’t responsible for the head to head contact. In that case did Diaz head but Schar? Was it a clash of heads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, Gawalls said: Them saying the rule says you push your face in someone’s is a red card are actually wrong, it states violent conduct and you could argue the push from Diaz was also violent conduct. Nah, neither one was. My unbalanced and very old mother would have remained on her feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 6 hours ago, Gawalls said: In that case did Diaz head but Schar? Was it a clash of heads? I think this view shows not only did BBD commit the first foul and feign injury/simulate (two yellows?) he ensures head to head contact and therefore he technically headbutts Schar. So on the application of the rule to Schar (however soft the contact, it’s violent conduct and you’re off) BBD should have had the straight red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Schar shouldn't have been there in the first place though. That just looks like a defensive reaction to someone walking up to you then getting in your face. The shove in retaliation with his chest should have been enough. Both get a ticking off, at worst two yellows but Schar couldn't let it go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 4 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I think this view shows not only did BBD commit the first foul and feign injury/simulate (two yellows?) he ensures head to head contact and therefore he technically headbutts Schar. So on the application of the rule to Schar (however soft the contact, it’s violent conduct and you’re off) BBD should have had the straight red. If Schar didn't walk towards him that would massively help his case. I felt for Fab as he was goaded into it. Ideally he waited for the game to restart and goes steaming through Diaz on the next 50/50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 @Optimistic Nut @HayDen Traces Are you certain there would have been head to head contact if BBD hadn’t made the forward movement? BBD is slightly sideways on, he had time to move his right foot/rotate his body further away if he wanted to avoid contact. He made sure contact occurred regardless of Schar being fucked off and aggressive. For me it is the Yeti twat’s violent (and utterly pathetic and disgusting) conduct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: @Optimistic Nut @HayDen Traces Are you certain there would have been head to head contact if BBD hadn’t made the forward movement? BBD is slightly sideways on, he had time to move his right foot/rotate his body further away if he wanted to avoid contact. He made sure contact occurred regardless of Schar being fucked off and aggressive. For me it is the Yeti twat’s violent (and utterly pathetic and disgusting) conduct. What frustrates me is nobody is mentioning the fact that Diaz ran 30 yards to push him in the back. Is that not a yellow card alone before any other action that followed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Just now, RobsonsWonderland said: What frustrates me is nobody is mentioning the fact that Diaz ran 30 yards to push him in the back. Is that not a yellow card alone before any other action that followed I thought that’s what he got the yellow for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 10 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: I thought that’s what he got the yellow for. I thought it was for the pushing. God knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Nick Pope (Newcastle): He made numerous saves and was just as solid as a rock. He struggled with injuries at the end of last season but was great on Saturday as Newcastle ground out a win with 10 men against Southampton. Dan Burn (Newcastle): Playing centre-half - and then in a back three when Newcastle went down to 10 men after Fabian Schar's red card - he was a monster. I don't think he gets the credit he deserves considering just how good he's been for how little they paid Brighton for him. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdx6lekn03no Troydini's first team of the week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: Nick Pope (Newcastle): He made numerous saves and was just as solid as a rock. He struggled with injuries at the end of last season but was great on Saturday as Newcastle ground out a win with 10 men against Southampton. Dan Burn (Newcastle): Playing centre-half - and then in a back three when Newcastle went down to 10 men after Fabian Schar's red card - he was a monster. I don't think he gets the credit he deserves considering just how good he's been for how little they paid Brighton for him. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdx6lekn03no Troydini's first team of the week Aye I thought we were class in our 3-3-3 formation. As insightful as expected from this clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Think it’s absolutely one where justice would dictate it being rescinded but politics will dictate it can’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) You'd love to think that given the media reaction to this, PGMOL themselves would look at it, and admit that having now looked at the slow motion videos, and analysing the incident properly (thus not exactly blaming the Ref and/or VAR), they realise it was a mistake, and should change it to a yellow card for Schar for the reaction, as contact was negligable. No real difference to the result as we won the game (other than killing the match as a spectacle), however our player is now available for the next 3 matches. But, we know they won't, and as much as I think we should, we (NUFC) probably wont appeal it either. Edited August 20 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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