Kid Icarus Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) Sounds dramatic but just getting in there first and curious about the general feeling. Edit: saying as some don't like the wording. Of course 'they'll work together' is an option I'd imagine the overwhelming majority would choose, but in the interests of not splitting the vote this is very much an 'if it comes down to it' poll. I don't see the harm in seeing what the temperature is, considering this discussion is already happening and has been for a while in the Howe and Mitchell threads. Edited September 22 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Get ya popcorn out, I’ll probably get my first ban if I see anyone actually truly attempting to voice a coherent position on why Mitchell should be backed over Howe based on the sum total of recruitment at other clubs in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Team Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Hope Mitchell dies of a carb OD ngl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Howetchell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Mitchell's reputation has long exceeded his actual record, and he has not demonstrated the ability to lead a successful analytics operation—something you're increasingly dead without. Howe may or may not be the answer, but his achievements at this club are remarkable, and I couldn't care less about Mitchell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 10 minutes ago, TRC said: Team Mitchell As a sidenote, what does TRC stand for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Toronto Raptors Chris? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) Just a wild guess. i could have picked Chad, but chose kindness. Edited September 21 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) I'd like a 'they will work together well' option please. PS terrible thread. Edited September 21 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 HAHA the guy who stays at clubs a few years and scouts players who a manager then has to develop over Howe. Yeah ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 16 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I'd like a 'they will work together well' option please. PS terrible thread. Agree, we need a third option. I think Howe's a great manager, but we do need to get away from 'the manager runs everything' model. At least as long as we are being forced to operate under the current financial restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Why is this a thing, seriously? Why perpetuate the notion that it even exists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Probably more to do with the fan base, one of the most entitled going. Ruin the good times with expectation and revel in the bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) Is this a Craig Hope in disguise thread? RTG levels this. Edited September 23 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I've not been on the football section all day, and purposely avoided it after the football. Based on this thread I assume the reaction to our first loss of the season has been level headed and calm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 40 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: As a sidenote, what does TRC stand for? Totally Rated Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Ok hypothetically? We have to operate within PSR (unless something changes) so need to work to a model of finding and signing undervalued talent. We need a manager who can work within that system to accept the signings and develop them. DOF and Manager have to be aligned regarding that. Under PSR with Howe we’ll be a position 5-8 side signing 1-2 established players, enough to maintain but not enough to push on. I want the best for NUFC. Howes done a great job but we can’t spend enough to get him the players he wants to move to the next level. With the DOF model we may be able to move up the rungs by unearthing talent and bring it into the squad or flipping for a profit to reinvest. Ideally they both put on their big boy pants and get on but if they can’t I’d chose Mitchell, not because I dislike Howe as I think he’s done a great job but we need the DOF model to work to progress and if Howe hinders that then that halts our progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 I think the world of his talent spotting and his record at Southampton, Spurs and RB, but his time at Monaco from 2020 onwards wasn’t perfect. There wasn’t Olmo or Mane there, maybe, yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Poor question, poor thread. The right answer is we’ll see the best version of NUFC if they figure out how to coexist. There are few people in the world better suited to developing talent than Eddie Howe and the only way we can compete within the financial rules is to buy young, undervalued and lesser known players. Whether Mitchell’s ability in his role is equal to Eddie’s in his remains to be seen, but he’s been here five minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 I don't see Howe being our long term answer in that I can't see him here in five years when expectations are super high (hope I'm wrong). But I could see him winning something here and I'm all for that over backing Mitchell who I know nothing about to be fair. That's my answer to the question which I don't really think we need to be asking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 To be fair we all know that one of them will go at the end of this season. Better change the question to who will be fired by PIF. No fans will support Mitchell at this moment but at the end of this season, our owner will decide whom he will support Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zero said: To be fair we all know that one of them will go at the end of this season. Better change the question to who will be fired by PIF. No fans will support Mitchell at this moment but at the end of this season, our owner will decide whom he will support I don't think that's the case. Mitchell will certainly get more time, he's only here. Howe has every chance of turning performances around. Once this team clicks again we're going to be firing and I'll be surprised if we're not top 6. If he doesn't then he won't even make it until the end and rightly so probably. Edited September 22 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Howe is Mitchell Mitchell is Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 13 minutes ago, Zero said: To be fair we all know that one of them will go at the end of this season. Better change the question to who will be fired by PIF. No fans will support Mitchell at this moment but at the end of this season, our owner will decide whom he will support No. We don't. Is it a possibility? Of course. But is irritating how some of you speak with such confidence about a behind the scenes situation that you actually know very little about. Drives me crazy that I deal with it as part of my work situation just to see the usual suspects doing it here. No wonder that disinformation is running so rampant through civilization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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