Newcastle United 3-0 Aston Villa - 26/12/24

[SteV]

Bit coincidental he ‘accidentally’ stamped on Schar just at the point he was up a height mind…

[OverThere]

I thought it was a borderline yellow/red but ho hum Sob on The Tyne and all that you Brummie bast#rds! 

[Astroblack]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k5UbhVlQq4

 

Official highlights, can't embed. 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 00:06 by Astroblack

[GeordieDazzler]

In the stadium in real time it looked pretty nasty and an obvious red which the ref agreed with.
 

As someone else pointed out his other teammates didn’t seem too outraged at the red. 
 

VAR will only overrule if the ref has completely missed something, but in this case he did land with his boots on Schar. His intent is just a judgement call and not a clear and obvious error. 
 

Think it was a little similar to when you see a red for high boot, probably not malicious but you can’t complain too much if the ref send you off.

[alexf]

I thought it was a nailed on red. Just as Schar twists his leg comes up almost as if he's going to leave abit on Duran but he doesn't connect. But in the microsecond, Duran retaliates and plants both feet in the direction of Schar but tried to do it in away that looks accidental. It wasn't. He knew exactly what he was doing and it's a red card. 

[geordie_b]

MOTD talking absolute nonsense with the red.

 

He ‘rolled’ his ankle as he stood on Schar but if you roll your ankle your next step is in the direction of the roll to take the weight NOT to other side like he did. 

[madras]

In level 7 right on line with it so basically looking down on it my immediate reaction was red. Seemed like he had two stamps, one with his right to Schars back then another extending lunge reaching up to the back of Schars head. 

 

On seeing several replays it looks more borderline, at least an orange be interesting to see if it gets knocked back.

[wormy]

1 hour ago, BonesJones said:

These images show it best for me. There's only one place that right foot should be landing, but look where it ends up.

 

 

 

 

Have you never played football, Bones? There was only ever going to be one place his foot ended up to avoid Schar decapitating his penis like the thug he is! 

[PauloGeordio]

[McDog]

Fucking Stan Collymore. Been a while since I heard that name.

[PauloGeordio]

 

[alexf]

Man City had better not come raiding us in January just cus they are having a shit season. We finally got a good settled midfield now.

[alexf]

Btw. That second goal from us is fucking great. If you watch it from start to finish. The way we keep the ball, move and rotate players around to work the space for Bruno on the edge, who find Murphy with a brilliant pass, then perfect timed runs by Murphy and Isak. 

 

That was superb to see. 

[gazza ladra]

Rewatched the first half. 

 

Don't see how anyone could think that Villa were on top or likely winners before the red. 

 

[cubaricho]

1 hour ago, gazza ladra said:

Rewatched the first half. 

 

Don't see how anyone could think that Villa were on top or likely winners before the red. 

 

To be fair it was only one person who’s notoriously negative.  

[Nucasol]

1 hour ago, cubaricho said:

To be fair it was only one person who’s notoriously negative.  

That negative I actually thought they were a mackem on the wind up and put them on ignore. Ridiculously contrary.

[Menace]

2 hours ago, gazza ladra said:

Rewatched the first half. 

 

Don't see how anyone could think that Villa were on top or likely winners before the red. 

 

 

Ah man you're going to start him off again

[CPL]

I've rewatched the red card incident and I'm not buying it one bit. He didn't seem that concerned about Schar's wellbeing despite knowing he has just 'accidently' raked his studs into his back. 

[David Edgar]

Watched the first half an hour again to see if I am going mad. An no menace, I would've posted this anyway. And yeah, it was all about those final third entries that Villa were wracking up. They had gone slightly ahead of us on final third passes whilst playing considerably more directly. Whilst they hadn't created any major chances, it was a case of assuming that we wouldn't really have an answer for the volume of attacks across the 90, whilst at up to the red card dealing with them pretty well once they got at our back line. They had lots of clearly very well drilled channel balls and runners. Eventually Watkins would've come on with fresh legs to carry that threat on. To me, it felt like something that would persistently pressure us. Coupled with Trippier being out of practice and knowing he would fatigue early, I felt that despite being a goal down, Villa did have a bit more control on the game state. We were very well served by Trippier rocking up absolutely on it. At best, you say it was finely balanced (ignoring the score) at 30 minutes. I think people will struggle with that concept cos they'll just think of the score and the fact that we won. Of course, anything can - and did - happen. Doesn't change my read on how that game was developing up to the red card. 

 

Few more things from the second watch. Murphy was absolutely diabolical in the first 5 minutes. Bants that he helped us score by giving it away before Tonali won it back to leave Villa out of position to defend the break  But we all know he is not press proof. Never will be.

 

Dan Burn was incredible. Absolutely imperious. 

 

They attacked our right side as much as possible so Hall had a very quiet opening to the game. 

 

I think we need to develop Tonali and Bruno playing as a double pivot to take our game to the next level. They have everything to boss the middle together. I think we are sort of doing this, with Joelinton starting higher up the pitch. 

 

Tonali is the definition of a player who needs to the game to be in front of him. The experiment playing him in the RCM channel failed because of that. It is amazing we have him playing from deep now where he can maximise his strengths. He covers groud, protects the defence (fixing our biggest out of possession issue that has plagued us for years) and can retain possession. When he isn't playing a terrible pass (which happened way more times than I thought at the time), he is holding the ball the exact amount of time. Be it a quick release or an extra couple of touches. 

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by David Edgar

[David Edgar]

Oh and the thing I don't think anyone has really hammered home about the red card. Duran literally rakes his studs up Schar. It isn't an attempt to put his foot down and Schar is in the way. He actively guides his studs up Schar's back. How is that anything but deliberately attempting to injure an opponent?

 

Fucking prick.

 

BBC have a picture on the game article of Duran eyeballing Schar's back as he is about to rake his studs down it. How is there a debate on this?

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by David Edgar

[Keegans Export]

The only thing I thought the "not a red" argument had going for it was that his left ankle buckled which threw him off balance, but looking again this morning I think he might actually roll his ankle because he's aiming to stand on Schar with his left, misses, then has another go with the right.

 

Really surprised to see online that there is any real debate. If it had been the other way round my overriding emotion would have been angry at our player for doing something so stupid in such an important game.

[David Edgar]

1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

The only thing I thought the "not a red" argument had going for it was that his left ankle buckled which threw him off balance, but looking again this morning I think he might actually roll his ankle because he's aiming to stand on Schar with his left, misses, then has another go with the right.

 

It is exactly this. The left foot step is so utterly odd out of context. He is lunging to get at Schar to leave one on him.

[Cristov]

43 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

Oh and the thing I don't think anyone has really hammered home about the red card. Duran literally rakes his studs up Schar. It isn't an attempt to put his foot down and Schar is in the way. He actively guides his studs up Schar's back. How is that anything but deliberately attempting to injure an opponent?

 

Fucking prick.

 

BBC have a picture on the game article of Duran eyeballing Schar's back as he is about to rake his studs down it. How is there a debate on this?

 

 

 

Agree with this, Duran has his eyes clearly on Schar while his right foot rakes up his back. Anyone in a sane moment would try to move their foot away from an opponent. 

[Yorkie]

I instantly thought it was a red and my view hasn't changed at any point; but if you want any further evidence of the intent then just look at his reaction as he's being dragged towards the tunnel. It was pure petulance and embarrassment as opposed to the dismay you see from players who genuinely feel they've been hard done by. I couldn't believe the analysis on MotD tbh.

 

Those instances have always, always been a red card. It reminded me of Shelvey seeing red for walking on Alli's foot in our first game back in the PL with Rafa.

[Tiresias]

Yes he clearly rolls his ankle because he changes direction to land on schar, nonsense that that proves was accident