Crimson Cardigan Posted Saturday at 23:17 Share Posted Saturday at 23:17 1 minute ago, brummie said: We've played 7 matches in 19 days, including a CL quarter final both ties. It's frankly miraculous we've put together such a good run. Absolutely, but your squad is ludicrously strong, stronger than most outside Birmingham realise. Seems like you’ve got an equivalent player in every position bar keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted Saturday at 23:25 Share Posted Saturday at 23:25 5 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: Absolutely, but your squad is ludicrously strong, stronger than most outside Birmingham realise. Seems like you’ve got an equivalent player in every position bar keeper. Yes, they've done a good job getting into that position, even using the loan system with the current obvious examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted Saturday at 23:31 Share Posted Saturday at 23:31 outplayed by a very good team while we weren’t at our normal level. it happens. we are still 3rd in the premier league and everything to play for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted Saturday at 23:32 Share Posted Saturday at 23:32 Even after this they're still going to finish below us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Sunday at 00:33 Share Posted Sunday at 00:33 Was just thinking how villa have essential got this large temporary squad by selling someone akin to Gordon and replacing them with Malen (who's nothing special) and a bunch of very expensive loans. If they decide to make the loans permanent the wage balloons another 600k at least (this figure would require all of the loanees to take cuts btw) and require transfer fees which would cost more than they got for Duran. Obviously what they Have done is powerful in the short term and in that specific context but I prefer our approach personally. Although I would love for us to actually do a better job managing FFP. we gave away by trading Anderson and not some random academy kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted Sunday at 01:31 Share Posted Sunday at 01:31 Leggy performance. Villa had the extra day's rest and brought in 4 fresh outfield players vs 0 changes for us. We started the same XI for the 7th game in a row and the third time in a week. In that situation we were never going to match their intensity. We failed to adapt our tactics to compensate. I thought we would sit deep, deny space in behind and play on the break. Instead we pressed high up the pitch with a high line which was the type of game Villa wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloNUFC Posted Sunday at 01:53 Share Posted Sunday at 01:53 (edited) Shit happens!! We moved On. Edited Sunday at 02:12 by HalloNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted Sunday at 06:20 Share Posted Sunday at 06:20 5 hours ago, r0cafella said: Was just thinking how villa have essential got this large temporary squad by selling someone akin to Gordon and replacing them with Malen (who's nothing special) and a bunch of very expensive loans. If they decide to make the loans permanent the wage balloons another 600k at least (this figure would require all of the loanees to take cuts btw) and require transfer fees which would cost more than they got for Duran. Obviously what they Have done is powerful in the short term and in that specific context but I prefer our approach personally. Although I would love for us to actually do a better job managing FFP. we gave away by trading Anderson and not some random academy kid. So based on what Villa and Forest have done on loan ins etc, should we of done similar or are we at a massive disadvantage due to our ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted Sunday at 06:20 Share Posted Sunday at 06:20 It's become such a weird fixture this one over the last couple of years in that whoever wins has won comfortably but in the long run it hasn't negatively impacted either team . We just need to write this one off and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Sunday at 06:21 Share Posted Sunday at 06:21 5 hours ago, r0cafella said: Was just thinking how villa have essential got this large temporary squad by selling someone akin to Gordon and replacing them with Malen (who's nothing special) and a bunch of very expensive loans. If they decide to make the loans permanent the wage balloons another 600k at least (this figure would require all of the loanees to take cuts btw) and require transfer fees which would cost more than they got for Duran. Obviously what they Have done is powerful in the short term and in that specific context but I prefer our approach personally. Although I would love for us to actually do a better job managing FFP. we gave away by trading Anderson and not some random academy kid. Don’t think they will be too worried personally, this is what Monchi and to some degree Emery do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Sunday at 06:28 Share Posted Sunday at 06:28 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Don’t think they will be too worried personally, this is what Monchi and to some degree Emery do. Yes and no right? I mean for my money they were super lucky our owners decided to create the chinese super league mark 2 and bail them out twice. If not they'd be up shits creek and not be able to do what they've done. It's kinda working out for them now sure, but it's a short term fix and contrary to what some seem to think it's a super expensive fix at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 06:28 Share Posted Sunday at 06:28 Villa were great yesterday, we’ve given them some real beatings under Emery so I had a feeling they’d be bang up for this one after the tindall antics and the psg game, and they were. It happens. On to the next one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 07:24 Share Posted Sunday at 07:24 55 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Villa were great yesterday, we’ve given them some real beatings under Emery so I had a feeling they’d be bang up for this one after the tindall antics and the psg game, and they were. It happens. On to the next one. Villa also HAD to win and they played like that. I had a feeling we might come unstuck at some point and to be honest given the distinct lack of options beyond the starting 11 I think this team has done phenomenally this season really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted Sunday at 07:30 Share Posted Sunday at 07:30 5 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Villa also HAD to win and they played like that. I had a feeling we might come unstuck at some point and to be honest given the distinct lack of options beyond the starting 11 I think this team has done phenomenally this season really. Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted Sunday at 07:35 Share Posted Sunday at 07:35 Bad day at the office against the much better side on the day. But what we all know about this team is that they always come back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Sunday at 07:36 Share Posted Sunday at 07:36 McGinn running at Trippier forcing Schar out of position to cover him was good tactics. Not mad at the result, we were 2nd best from kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted Sunday at 07:51 Share Posted Sunday at 07:51 12 minutes ago, Menace said: McGinn running at Trippier forcing Schar out of position to cover him was good tactics. Not mad at the result, we were 2nd best from kick off. yeah this. I think this is the first team to properly exploit the space Trippier leaves when he pushes forward - since he came back regular again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted Sunday at 08:32 Share Posted Sunday at 08:32 12 hours ago, Rod said: Am I right though? No need to swear. He was off definitely. Not even the unnecessarily aggressive chasing, but in possession too. Joelinton as well, noticed him being very ponderous and awkward on the ball a few times. Tonali had a great game (thankfully!). Isak is crying out for a goal; not sure if Villa set-up in a clever way to cut him out or it was/is just the way we set up but he looked very isolated. Towards the end of the game (way too late to see if it would make a difference) looked like Gordon was trying to join Wilson more as a two. Would have liked to see this with Isak once we went behind (and were obviously on the ropes) plus a ‘Joe’ swap and Longstaff for Guimares. Bold move and obviously seems in hindsight now, but our boys from Brazil were not at it and the system wasn’t working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 08:41 Share Posted Sunday at 08:41 9 hours ago, nemtizz said: Even after this they're still going to finish below us. We move on - bring on Ipswich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted Sunday at 08:42 Share Posted Sunday at 08:42 Thought we robbed Villa tbh. Should’ve been 8-1. Commentary said it was our 7th game in a row with an unchanged side. Was vey surprised to hear that. Our subs often look a bit lacking sharpness and I do wonder if the fact we never rotate is an issue. I wouldn’t have been shocked to see Gordon start for example or Krafts in for Tripps from the off given his age and playing time recently. It will exceedingly hard for Willock to get match sharpness if he never starts either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 08:56 Share Posted Sunday at 08:56 3 games is 6 days is a lot for any team - Villa's bench won the game. Now it's a weeks air gap between the remaining games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Sunday at 09:08 Share Posted Sunday at 09:08 I felt we started with the wrong tactics and kinda went in too open. It could have easily been 4 - 1 at half time let alone full time. If we started the game doing what we seemingly did at the start of the second half and sat in, looking to break out, and kept it tight then I think we'd have fatigued less and not been pulled around so much. Our midfield 3 were stretched apart often trying to cover full backs too much and trying to help struggling, slow centre backs. By the time the second half came we'd been chasing the game to get it level and were fucked. I get why we kept stronger players on for so long in recent games but this was always the danger tbh. Their change in personnel then won them the game in the scoresheet but performance-wise they got what they'd deserved from the first half. They're an excellent side, with an excellent manager - it has to be said. Champions League is vital to both clubs though to sustain this breaking down of the "big 6". It really does demonstrate the sheer ineptitude of the likes of Spurs and Man United that they have had such a fall from grace this season with such squad depth at multiple levels and time at the 'financial top'. Villa have rolled the dice on loans to get them to the CL. I feel they'll do similar next season with maybe an addition of one big summer signing. I think that works until they slip up one season and then they're pretty much out the frame. We're not rolling the dice and running a similar risk - expecting the same players to achieve or in some instances over-achieve relentlessly. Good old FFP eh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Sunday at 09:19 Share Posted Sunday at 09:19 4 minutes ago, Lotus said: Thought we robbed Villa tbh. Should’ve been 8-1. Commentary said it was our 7th game in a row with an unchanged side. Was vey surprised to hear that. Our subs often look a bit lacking sharpness and I do wonder if the fact we never rotate is an issue. I wouldn’t have been shocked to see Gordon start for example or Krafts in for Tripps from the off given his age and playing time recently. It will exceedingly hard for Willock to get match sharpness if he never starts either. When one of our subs is Talos/TinMan it’s not surprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Sunday at 09:19 Share Posted Sunday at 09:19 8 hours ago, r0cafella said: Was just thinking how villa have essential got this large temporary squad by selling someone akin to Gordon and replacing them with Malen (who's nothing special) and a bunch of very expensive loans. If they decide to make the loans permanent the wage balloons another 600k at least (this figure would require all of the loanees to take cuts btw) and require transfer fees which would cost more than they got for Duran. Obviously what they Have done is powerful in the short term and in that specific context but I prefer our approach personally. Although I would love for us to actually do a better job managing FFP. we gave away by trading Anderson and not some random academy kid. I’ve no doubt by the time window closes in the summer we’ll be in the stronger position. We appear to be in a great position to spend. They done a ton on wages for temporary signings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted Sunday at 09:21 Share Posted Sunday at 09:21 Villa done us...simples Bruno and Linton had off days and that was that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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