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4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Also, him putting this statement out suggests even if he has something in writing it's worth absolutely nothing

 

Otherwise he'd have pursued a legal avenue much sooner but if it's an email saying "after our discussion today we are happy to confirm if a reasonable offer is made we will accept and let you leave" then that is as useful as a chocolate fireguard 

Legal avenues would take far longer than any transfer window. 

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5 minutes ago, Pearljam10 said:

But what is a reasonable offer?

Our current offer for a 29 year old is reasonable. Probably slightly above his market value. Brentford shouldn’t have told him he could leave at the start of the summer in writing if they really think they can’t survive without him

 

 

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Is there anything more subjective than 'a reasonable fee'.  If you want assurances, then get specific ones, including an acceptable fee in writing.  For the money these agents get paid you'd think they would be a bit better at their jobs

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3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

There's fans that will abuse players in the street when they're with their family and go on their Instagram pages that all their friends and family also view and post abusive messages, just because they are struggling and playing poorly. This was what was done to Joelinton.

 

I really don't want to hear anymore nonsense about players being disrespectful to fans when they pull these stunts, because there's fans that are no better than these guys.

 

We are three games into the season and Thiaw has already been labelled Bramble/Boumsong and Elanga an Adama Traore, and there's people ready to escalate and shit on them further all over social media for the players to have to hear about and see for themselves.

 

Thankfully most of the time these sorts of clowns just end up looking stupid when the players start delivering, and then comes the back tracking and fake over the top fawning.

 

As long as fans like this exist then players like this must exist also.

 

 

 

Also this idea that fans don't want a player who behaves like this is self delusional. The same fans would have been groaning at every misplaced pass from Sean Longstaff despite him being desperate to stay here. Fans are fans though, they are meant to be reactionary. We need people at the club who can make sensible long term decisions when buying players, and above all buy players who will improve us on the pitch. 

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5 minutes ago, gdm said:

Because just like Isak it’s very vague. Show what was put in writing, tell us what the specifics were. 

 

Why should he show you fuck all ??

 

That statement is very balanced and respectful (compare and contrast). Wissa's also been training with the team.

 

Sign him up (not for £65 Mill mind) and screw the pearl clutchers.

 

We're not here to be popular we're here to compete. Plus we haven't undertaken any campaign through media placemen to keep the pot boiling.

 

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Just now, Paulinho said:

Disgusting behaviour from Brentford really. Poor kid just wants his dream move to a big club, like he was promised.

#freeWissa 

 

Seriously though, this has been the transfer window of the test of player power

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6 minutes ago, Smal said:

football is in a really bad place

 

It's in no worse a place than it's been for the last 20 years other than we now have PSR shackles to prevent any challenge to the cartel. 

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I have some sympathy in the sense that I suspect Wissa will be the real loser from this saga. Isak to Liverpool, Strand Larsen to us and Wissa stays at Brentford and very likely never gets his wish of Champions League football. 

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3 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

It's in no worse a place than it's been for the last 20 years other than we now have PSR shackles to prevent any challenge to the cartel. 

 

so it’s worse then? 

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I find it difficult not to be at least a bit enthused by a really good striker being desperate to come and play for Newcastle, especially when we're desperate for one if we're going to sustain our efforts to disrupt the cartel.

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31 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

What do they want then ?


There isn’t an asking price, they don’t want to sell him. If we (or another club) make an offer that they deem acceptable when it lands, he’ll move on but there isn’t a set amount that needs to be triggered for that to happen.

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3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I find it difficult not to be at least a bit enthused by a really good striker being desperate to come and play for Newcastle, especially when we're desperate for one of we're going to sustain our efforts to disrupt the cartel.

Desperate for the pay cheque - It is no different to Isak - who was happy to sign a new contracts 12 months ago but now eyes a bumper pay cheque.  It's all about the money.

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I do kinda feel for him even though we're in the same situation.

 

Brentford are never going to get Champions League maybe not even Conference League. Very unlikely to win anything. He wants to come here for one of the biggest projects in football towards the end of his career.

 

Isak has all that and wants out for what seemingly seems to be for just more money. He can say it's because he wants PL titles and Champions League titles but there's absolutely no guarantee of any of that.

Would be funny if Liverpool don't win anything for the next 4 or 5 years tbh which is more than possible.

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Two situations are completely different:

 

Case A:

 

Players ducks friendlies with injury (in pain but scans clear)

 

Player ducks tour with aforesaid injury

 

Player fucks off to train in Spain without permission.

 

Media circus ensues (probably a directed circus)

 

Player states want's to explore options.

 

Media circus intensifies.

 

Player states via 3rd parties wants to leave for Liverpool.

 

Liverpool lowball offer.

 

Player goes on strike.

 

Player issues me, me, me, statement.

 

Case B:

 

Player comes to understanding with club (evidenced in writing allegedly) to explore options.

 

Player identifies new club and club makes "fair" offer.

 

Brentford reject offer/raise price.

 

Player throws toys from pram and quits training camp.

 

Further offer received/rebuffed and Brentford state nothing possible until replacement sourced.

 

Player resumes training with team.

 

Replacement acquired.

 

Further offer made - rebuffed because "oh we didn't mean THAT replacement".

 

Player still training.

 

Brentford quote thoroughly ridiculous asking price.

 

Player still training.

 

Player issues respectful (to club and fans) and detailed statement.

 

Just utterly incomparable, player shits on a club v club shits on player.

 

 

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