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We basically overpaid purely so we could have him this season. If he ends up missing half of it, might turn out to be very bad luck. 

 

We really need Osula to step up to take some of the pressure of Big Nick. 

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We could moan about our luck on this one but paying huge money for a 29yo tool-downer whose game is primarily dependant on his athleticism was stupid. He's not a Teddy Sheringham type who has years left at the highest level. A high risk, low reward gamble.

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2 minutes ago, Irish Paul said:

We could moan about our luck on this one but paying huge money for a 29yo tool-downer whose game is primarily dependant on his athleticism was stupid. He's not a Teddy Sheringham type who has years left at the highest level. A high risk, low reward gamble.

 

I thought it was a calculated risk at the time, and one worth taking given he had an excellent fitness history. But I do wonder if a proper DOF might have put his foot down for that very reason. There's no guarantees in football, and there's always a risk of an injury so they would probably have factored that in just in case. 

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Ah man, fuck right off. Fella had pretty much a clean record over a decade before this. The Congo management and even Wissa have a lot to answer for.

 

At 29yr old, missing half a fucking season is extremely costly in terms of already poor PSR value, never mind the footballing side.

 

Think Howe needs to assume we'll be getting very little out of him this season.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

Isn't it so that English players often pull out of internationals when they are not fit? Not championships, but internationals like the one Wissa got injured in.

Nah, friendlies, yeah, but not qualifying matches.

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12 minutes ago, Irish Paul said:

We could moan about our luck on this one but paying huge money for a 29yo tool-downer whose game is primarily dependant on his athleticism was stupid. He's not a Teddy Sheringham type who has years left at the highest level. A high risk, low reward gamble.

 

Couldn't agree less. His injury record was absolutely impeccable and he was a proven goalscorer in the Premier League. It was the dictionary definition of low risk. 

 

People get so hung up on age, like. He's 29 ffs. :lol: We've not signed a corpse; I think you can do the maths and feel confident that you're at least gonna get a good couple of seasons out of the bloke. He's also played at least half of his career at a level lower than Ligue 1 so the toll on his body will be less.

 

If you want to argue that it was a less sustainable signing from a purely financial perspective, I'd respect the argument but ultimately put my trust in the club, given how conscious we are of PSR. We wouldn't have pulled the trigger if we weren't comfortable about the financial impact.

 

It's just incredibly bad luck; absolutely nothing else to it.

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12 minutes ago, Irish Paul said:

We could moan about our luck on this one but paying huge money for a 29yo tool-downer whose game is primarily dependant on his athleticism was stupid. He's not a Teddy Sheringham type who has years left at the highest level. A high risk, low reward gamble.

 

This is nonsense imo.

 

His injury record is impeccable. This is bad luck, simple as that.

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2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Couldn't agree less. His injury record was absolutely impeccable and he was a proven goalscorer in the Premier League. It was the dictionary definition of low risk. 

 

People get so hung up on age, like. He's 29 ffs. :lol: We've not signed a corpse; I think you can do the maths and feel confident that you're at least gonna get a good couple of seasons out of the bloke.

 

If you want to argue that it was a less sustainable signing from a purely financial perspective, I'd respect the argument but ultimately put my trust in the club, given how conscious we are of PSR. We wouldn't have pulled the trigger if we weren't comfortable about the financial impact.

 

It's just incredibly bad luck; absolutely nothing else to it.

Couldn't agree more, players aren't just signed for one season FFS. Everything will be fine.

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1 minute ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

So an extra three weeks.

 

Not the end of the world if he comes back fit.

 

Depends on how Wolt and Osula can do in his absence. If we can stay in touch with the top 5 then he could be crucial for the second half of the season to take us into CL. Then all is well. 

 

If we can't get a tune of of our front players while he's out, then there's a chance it could derail our season. 

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5 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

So an extra three weeks.

 

Not the end of the world if he comes back fit.

 

Until the last break in november, and then we spend the start of december getting him up to speed so that DR Congo can run him to the ground again from 18th of december..

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Erikse said:

i'm sure DR Congo will ease him in at AFCON if it's right after his return.[emoji38] "So you can run for 10 seconds without much pain? Allright you're ready, 90 min 2 times a week for you."

Yep, like they did in September the absolute fucking melts that they are.

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1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Couldn't agree less. His injury record was absolutely impeccable and he was a proven goalscorer in the Premier League. It was the dictionary definition of low risk. 

 

People get so hung up on age, like. He's 29 ffs. :lol: We've not signed a corpse; I think you can do the maths and feel confident that you're at least gonna get a good couple of seasons out of the bloke.

 

If you want to argue that it was a less sustainable signing from a purely financial perspective, I'd respect the argument but ultimately put my trust in the club, given how conscious we are of PSR. We wouldn't have pulled the trigger if we weren't comfortable about the financial impact.

 

It's just incredibly bad luck; absolutely nothing else to it.

Shite. 

Impeccable injury record is no guarantee, especially at that age and the type of player he is.  At that price, he was going to have to hit the ground running(with no football played having gone on strike) and be brilliant for us in the short term, there is no long term with him in all honesty. He was always going to miss the Afcon period. All it was going to take was one injury, not even a huge one, and it was going to look a big mistake, which is where we're at now. 

 

Ludicrous to call it low risk.

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8 minutes ago, Irish Paul said:

Shite. 

Impeccable injury record is no guarantee, especially at that age and the type of player he is.  At that price, he was going to have to hit the ground running(with no football played having gone on strike) and be brilliant for us in the short term, there is no long term with him in all honesty. He was always going to miss the Afcon period. All it was going to take was one injury, not even a huge one, and it was going to look a big mistake, which is where we're at now. 

 

Ludicrous to call it low risk.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Investing with as little risk as possible appears to be the defining characteristic of our transfer policy imo. You've also got to factor in all the (even lower risk) players we'd missed out on before turning to Wissa. Woltemade was higher risk but there's no way he ends up here if we've signed Pedro, for instance.

 

Maybe we should have got that Guessand guy instead. Apparently he had a shot last night! :lol:

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even when he's recovered it'll take him time to get his match fitness and get integrated into the team 

 

then there's the Afcon 

 

so really not expecting much from him until February 

 

just our luck but hopefully still get a decent amount of goals during the final 3 months this season

 

 

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