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Don't think we'll bring in anyone like him, perhaps a midfielder like Ramsey could play there. TBH even Barnes could probably do alright in that role. 

 

But maybe we would end up just going back to 433 when Nick isn't playing.

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7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

But maybe we would end up just going back to 433 when Nick isn't playing.

 

This what I'm worried about [emoji38]

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3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

This what I'm worried about [emoji38]

 

It was good enough to get us in the Champions League before. 

 

Nick could play every PL game anyway, pretty much. 

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13 minutes ago, KaKa said:

If we fully go 4-2-3-1 next season and Nick stays, who would you see being rotated with him in that position? Or would you want someone else brought in for that position?

If we don't buy someone, then I'd expect (or maybe hope is the right word!) horses for courses depending on the game situation and who we're playing.

 

In theory, Bruno, Ramsey, Joelinton, and Willock in the current squad could all play the position, but they're very different players to Woltemade so like all good questions, I'll stick to "it depends". Another good question might be who would be the best 10 if we had to play Woltemade up front?

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2 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

If we don't buy someone, then I'd expect (or maybe hope is the right word!) horses for courses depending on the game situation and who we're playing.

 

In theory, Bruno, Ramsey, Joelinton, and Willock in the current squad could all play the position, but they're very different players to Woltemade so like all good questions, I'll stick to "it depends". Another good question might be who would be the best 10 if we had to play Woltemade up front?

 

Think I'd most like to see Ramsey slotted into that position as an alternate option.

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4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

It was good enough to get us in the Champions League before. 

 

 

Yeah, but after this season I'm completely sick of it.

 

Maybe if Tonali leaves and a different sort of player is added in that lone 6 position in the 4-3-3, then perhaps.

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I'm sick of everything this season, I just don't believe any particular formation is a write-off. 433 with more technical players who can pass and control the ball would still be fine when needed IMO. 

 

Nick is so unique that I can't see anyone comparable being added to the squad. But I agree that Ramsey could operate in similar spaces. 

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9 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Think I'd most like to see Ramsey slotted into that position as an alternate option.

Yeah, if we're picking one from the current squad as a default/go-to he'd be my pick too 

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9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I'm sick of everything this season, I just don't believe any particular formation is a write-off. 433 with more technical players who can pass and control the ball would still be fine when needed IMO. 

 

Nick is so unique that I can't see anyone comparable being added to the squad. But I agree that Ramsey could operate in similar spaces. 

 

There's no reason any alternative option has to be just like Woltemade.

 

Just has to be able to play off a striker and create chances and be a goal threat.

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27 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

It was good enough to get us in the Champions League before. 

 

Nick could play every PL game anyway, pretty much. 

I think what worked before isn't likely to work again, football is always evolving and as Ferguson used to say "if you don't go forward you go backwards". 

 

Like it's possible we'll have the players where 4-3-3 is a viable solution again but I think we are very far away from it.

 

To answer Kaka's question though I would like to see another option in that area of the pitch. For me the '3' in a 4-2-3-1 is the biggest area of weakness in the squad overall considering how important it is.

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14 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

There's no reason any alternative option has to be just like Woltemade.

 

Just has to be able to play off a striker and create chances and be a goal threat.

I think Ramsey could do that.

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On 17/05/2026 at 19:54, Yorkie said:

Absolutely love it when he gets on the scoresheet because, while I have plenty of doubts about him, I really want to believe that the idea of him is true. He's reminded me of certain others in that sense - where the idea of him seems to exist in theory but without much evidence (different type of player but Luque always comes into my head first). 

 

At the end of the day, he's shown glimpses and has got eight PL goals this year. It's not good but it's not disastrous. If the other new striker haf scored more than an eighth of that, the conversation around him is probably a bit different imo.

8 goals with zero Premier league experience, a team around him playing well below their best, limited game time and being shuffled into strange positions isn't too bad imo. 

 

Let's see how he does next season after the summer player shuffle.

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I thought he showed really promising cohesion with Bruno and Ramsey. The three of them put together a few really nice quick sequences.

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15 minutes ago, Lenny said:

I thought he showed really promising cohesion with Bruno and Ramsey. The three of them put together a few really nice quick sequences.

Agreed, the 2nd goal was really nice one touch play

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Miley can play 10 and did most of his youth career. Still think it'll be his best position in the right system as well tbh. Such a good final ball and could score more goals too. 

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1 hour ago, MagPar said:

8 goals with zero Premier league experience, a team around him playing well below their best, limited game time and being shuffled into strange positions isn't too bad imo. 

 

Let's see how he does next season after the summer player shuffle.

 

Agreed. If we stay 4-2-3-1 next week I think he'll get to 9 before season's end.

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12 hours ago, KaKa said:

If we fully go 4-2-3-1 next season and Nick stays, who would you see being rotated with him in that position? Or would you want someone else brought in for that position?


Don’t think we have anyone else capable of playing there, except maybe Bruno.

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18 hours ago, KaKa said:

If we fully go 4-2-3-1 next season and Nick stays, who would you see being rotated with him in that position? Or would you want someone else brought in for that position?

Would love to see us a sign hybrid playmaker type. A Paqueta/Szobo/Kulu type. A playmaker that can play in the 10 but also fits in neatly elsewhere in a 4-3-3 as an 8 or wide player.

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