Fak Posted Friday at 20:01 Share Posted Friday at 20:01 8 hours ago, TRon said: He certainly stitched us up royally with the Anderson/Vlachydimos deal...and Forest were also in PSR trouble at the time. Amanda and Ghoudussi get a free pass here for that, but that was part of the reason they were probably invited to leave. I think Ashworths plan was to offload Joelinton before his messy exit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted Friday at 20:06 Share Posted Friday at 20:06 1 minute ago, Fak said: I think Ashworths plan was to offload Joelinton before his messy exit. Turns out it would have been the better decision after all. We would, Still have Anderson and Minteh along with saving 55 million on Elenga. Guy was still a cunt though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Friday at 20:22 Share Posted Friday at 20:22 15 minutes ago, Hudson said: Turns out it would have been the better decision after all. We would, Still have Anderson and Minteh along with saving 55 million on Elenga. Guy was still a cunt though. I do think Ashworth would’ve been a success had been here long enough. Seems like a weasel of a bloke though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted Friday at 20:49 Share Posted Friday at 20:49 Still frustrates me when people talk about we should have sold X player over Anderson. You can't just sell players you don't want.. other teams have to bid or you have to lower the asking price to make it feel a bargain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Friday at 20:55 Share Posted Friday at 20:55 54 minutes ago, Fak said: I think Ashworths plan was to offload Joelinton before his messy exit. How much do you reckon we would've got for big joe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Friday at 20:57 Share Posted Friday at 20:57 55 minutes ago, Fak said: I think Ashworths plan was to offload Joelinton before his messy exit. I did think it was the right decision at the time, but would we have still won the Carabao Cup without Joelinton? he played a pretty big part in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Friday at 20:57 Share Posted Friday at 20:57 2 minutes ago, andycap said: How much do you reckon we would've got for big joe? Absolutely no idea mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Friday at 20:58 Share Posted Friday at 20:58 (edited) 1 minute ago, TRon said: I did think it was the right decision at the time, but would we have still won the Carabao Cup without Joelinton? he played a pretty big part in it. Plus we had to flog minteh for 30 million and ando don't think we'd have made enough money off joelinton alone. He was probably around 40 million pound player with his age at the time. Edited Friday at 20:59 by andycap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Friday at 20:58 Share Posted Friday at 20:58 Just now, TRon said: I did think it was the right decision at the time, but would we have still won the Carabao Cup without Joelinton? he played a pretty big part in it. I didn't think it was the right decision at the time but looking back I do now. He was superb in that final. It is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Friday at 21:44 Share Posted Friday at 21:44 Just an indication that it's not so easy to just sell good players when they're playing well for you and claim to be a good player trader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Friday at 22:25 Share Posted Friday at 22:25 2 hours ago, Danh1 said: I do think Ashworth would’ve been a success had been here long enough. Seems like a weasel of a bloke though. So do i He did most stuff he needed to well Even elsewhere he's been credited with good stuff He was against Amorim He brokered Sanchos truce between Ten bag and him when all seemed messy and finished If man u hadn't taken him we wouldn't have had a bad few years in the market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Friday at 22:44 Share Posted Friday at 22:44 19 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: So do i He did most stuff he needed to well Even elsewhere he's been credited with good stuff He was against Amorim He brokered Sanchos truce between Ten bag and him when all seemed messy and finished If man u hadn't taken him we wouldn't have had a bad few years in the market He did reportedly want Southgate mind, but aye he does seem very good at what he does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted yesterday at 02:29 Share Posted yesterday at 02:29 4 hours ago, kingxlnc said: So do i He did most stuff he needed to well Even elsewhere he's been credited with good stuff He was against Amorim He brokered Sanchos truce between Ten bag and him when all seemed messy and finished If man u hadn't taken him we wouldn't have had a bad few years in the market Does it not seem a bit damning he was out of there pretty quickly? I will give you a hot take; Brighton's strategy isn't all that innovative or hard to implement, you just need patience and a willingness to buy more duds than you sell stars. We didn't want to do that because we don't have a club network and we need much more immediate returns. Building that system is way different. No promises he'd have done a good job at finding that balance. Fold in he was likely going to want to tear down the team we had, and it could have gone pear shaped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted yesterday at 06:08 Share Posted yesterday at 06:08 10 hours ago, Hudson said: Turns out it would have been the better decision after all. We would, Still have Anderson and Minteh along with saving 55 million on Elenga. Guy was still a cunt though. We also won a cup and qualified for the Champions League again. So not sure selling Joelinton at the time would have been such a top tier move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted yesterday at 07:07 Share Posted yesterday at 07:07 There's definitely a lot of hindsight going on here. Anderson was never more than vaguely competent for us. Yes he has improved a lot and is now coveted for absurd money. Given his ability at the time, and regardless of psr shenanigans we got a good deal at the time. It looks rubbish looking back, but there was no indication he would ever end up here. Unpopular, but I saw more in McClen and Kerr than Anderson ever showed with us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted yesterday at 08:28 Share Posted yesterday at 08:28 McClen and Kerr is a bit of a mad shout mind, general point notwithstanding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted yesterday at 08:33 Share Posted yesterday at 08:33 4 minutes ago, Hovagod said: McClen and Kerr is a bit of a mad shout mind, general point notwithstanding My thoughts exactly I remember being happy with getting 35 million for Anderson. Thought we had a cracking deal. The only failure when it comes to Anderson was not realising his full potential here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted yesterday at 08:37 Share Posted yesterday at 08:37 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: There's definitely a lot of hindsight going on here. Anderson was never more than vaguely competent for us. Yes he has improved a lot and is now coveted for absurd money. Given his ability at the time, and regardless of psr shenanigans we got a good deal at the time. It looks rubbish looking back, but there was no indication he would ever end up here. Unpopular, but I saw more in McClen and Kerr than Anderson ever showed with us There was loads of signs that Anderson was going to become a very good player. You not being able to spot it, doesnt make it so. 100m pound combative midfielder? Perhaps not but there was clearly a quality player there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted yesterday at 08:37 Share Posted yesterday at 08:37 I don't really blame anyone at our club over the Anderson deal, we were over a barrel for the majority of it. I'm more annoyed at the blatant rigging of bias towards certain clubs that somehow manage to keep spending massive amounts while being in huge debt or seemingly get away with multiple infractions while others break the smallest rule (or get close to them) and get hammered with penalties. Financial Fair Play my arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted yesterday at 08:55 Share Posted yesterday at 08:55 12 hours ago, Hudson said: Turns out it would have been the better decision after all. We would, Still have Anderson and Minteh along with saving 55 million on Elenga. Guy was still a cunt though. The season we sold Anderson, Joelinton was a major part of us winning our first trophy in decades and gave an absolutely elite performance in the final in particular. He was also a major part of us finishing 5th that season. Glad we kept him and sold Anderson and Minteh, personally. Sick of the hindsight merchants on Twitter in particular going on as if selling Anderson was some kind of catastrophic and obviously incorrect decision by the club (usually directed at Howe specifically). Most people were baffled that we'd got such a good fee for him at the time, when it was initially reported as £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted yesterday at 08:59 Share Posted yesterday at 08:59 I wouldn't change anything about any transfer dealing up to last summer. Everything leading up to it just made everything fall into place for CL.footnall and the cup win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted yesterday at 09:06 Share Posted yesterday at 09:06 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I wouldn't change anything about any transfer dealing up to last summer. Everything leading up to it just made everything fall into place for CL.footnall and the cup win. Amen. People rueful over the decision not to fulfill that snake Ashworth's wishes and sell Joelinton is of particular irritation. Folks need to replay that gif of him clotheslining Harvey Elliot in the closing stages of the cup final and give their heads a shake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted yesterday at 09:11 Share Posted yesterday at 09:11 Anyone wanting to change any event leading up to us winning our first trophy in 50 odd years wants their head and hard drive checked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted yesterday at 09:24 Share Posted yesterday at 09:24 I would in hindsight have got rid of Gordon to Liverpool but at the time he was a vital player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 09:28 Share Posted yesterday at 09:28 3 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: I would in hindsight have got rid of Gordon to Liverpool but at the time he was a vital player They wanted us to take Joe Gomez at a 45m valuation Iirc we would have got like 30m for Gordon. It wasn't a good deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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