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1 hour ago, lovejoy said:

Totally.

 

But we’d have known 3 weeks ago if we’d have paid the clause.

 

If we agree a fee with a club and wait 3 weeks for the player to say yes then there’s no helping us.

Where do you get the three weeks from? This thread was created less than two weeks ago when it was very speculative whether we were even going to bid for him. 

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Another one of my personal journeys where 

 

I've never heard of the player,

Never seen him play

 

Watch a couple of YouTube videos,

Think he is going to be the answer.

 

Still never see him play

 

Lose out to a big 5 team (sorry spurs)

Think he was crap anyway and he will spend his life on the bench

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32 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

I think most rational people realise we’ve been played and Liverpool are experienced operators in a position of privilege doing this constantly.

 

However, people also have legitimacy to be concerned over whether the club have learned their lessons with Ekitike, Pedro and Sesko, or whether it’s rinse and repeat of “bid, pause, hijacked” of last year with big beasts consistently doing us over.

 

Feels like a bit of a watershed moment for the likes of Wilson and "Suds"- is there a list of other identified targets to calmly move onto or are we going to panic and/or sit feeling sorry for ourselves?

 

Not much we can do if a cartel club comes sniffing but it's how we now react that will be telling.

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If ever we seem close to a deal but it's not quite agreed, and Romano or Ornstein report on it, be wary that it's not just a coded 'come and get me' message to someone else.

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18 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said:

Yeah it feels like there's always a window where the agent and player wait to see if a bigger fish joins the party. Inevitably, in our case, they always do.

 

Honestly feel there's a model there for us to copy. Palace, Brighton, Brentford all have pretty good scouting teams. Start with targets they are reported to be signing, if we think they look good and the price is reasonable then get contacting the agent.

 

Said it a couple years back when Palace were playing hardball with us on Guehi whilst at the same time very publicly signing his eventual replacement Lacroix for relative peanuts. We should have been all over that to either force Palace's arm in negotiations or get another very good defender instead for a fraction of the price.

 

If we're leaving the "PrEmIeR LeAgUe PrOvEn" model behind then it's at least a starting point.

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27 minutes ago, pubteam said:

Do the big 6 have a group chat going on? right Liverpool it’s your turn to mess with Newcastle, they’re still moving, give them another kick. 

I mean look how quickly they conspired to get the APT rules introduced when we were bought by the Saudis.  So it's not beyond the realms of possibly.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

We agreed a fee according to Ryder.

 

The player chose the more successful club who can offer bigger wages. Don't think there's much more to it.

 

I really don't think there's any more to it than this.  The involvement of libpewl and romano makes it feel about five times worse than it actually is.

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24 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Where do you get the three weeks from? This thread was created less than two weeks ago when it was very speculative whether we were even going to bid for him. 

We’ve spent two weeks with the press going on about ‘player agrees, clubs negotiating’.  A week of it was ‘Real Madrid negotiating over clause’ etc.  Liverpool step in, activate the release clause, and the R Madrid talk ceases to exist.  
 

Of course we’ve been played by the player’s agent - but how naive are we?  As soon as we get a sniff there’s something awry we need to move on to other targets.  
 

Plenty of time yet in the window, but we don’t want to be doing this too often given the numbers we need to sign. 

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As far as transfers go, we’ve basically become Spurs. It’s progress, at least, but it’s torturous on this side of it. As soon as any of the other five come in, there’s only ever going to be one outcome.

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47 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP INVESTING SO MUCH EMOTION IN THE TRANSFER SHITE THAT GETS SPREAD ON THE TWATTER.

 

There, I said it.

 

so true. but, i cannot seem to stop

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1 minute ago, Rich said:

As far as transfers go, we’ve basically become Spurs. It’s progress, at least, but it’s torturous on this side of it. As soon as any of the other five come in, there’s only ever going to be one outcome.

Levy was notorious for haggling over a few million for incoming transfers that led to others coming in or the deal not getting agreed

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2 minutes ago, Rich said:

As far as transfers go, we’ve basically become Spurs. It’s progress, at least, but it’s torturous on this side of it. As soon as any of the other five come in, there’s only ever going to be one outcome.

We wish we had Spurs pulling power/spending capacity tbh. 

 

 

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