Víctor Muñoz

[LFEE]

4 minutes ago, Menace said:

Riddle me this - if Madrid's buy back is indeed 8M euros and he's expected to be sold for 35M+... why wouldn't they?

You imagine they would. Unless the player can decline?

[The Prophet]

4 minutes ago, LFEE said:

You imagine they would. Unless the player can decline?

 

I could be mistaken, but I'm sure I've also read they also have a clause ensuring they get 50% of any sale too.

[healthyaddiction]

11 minutes ago, Menace said:

Riddle me this - if Madrid's buy back is indeed 8M euros and he's expected to be sold for 35M+... why wouldn't they?

They apparently have a 50% sell on clause for him.

[TRon]

11 hours ago, TK-421 said:

 

The three of them are Journalists, for the Shields Gazette.

 

 

I've got nowt against them tbh, but I did wonder if they actually get paid to write stuff? They don't come across as professionals, but maybe they write better than they speak?

[SteV]

Just now, TRon said:

 

 

I've got nowt against them tbh, but I did wonder if they actually get paid to write stuff? They don't come across as professionals, but maybe they write better than they speak?

I don’t mind Dom Scurr, he comes across the closest to being a proper journo. Not so much the other two.

[TheBrownBottle]

14 minutes ago, LFEE said:

You imagine they would. Unless the player can decline?

The player can definitely decline 

[The Prophet]

Wednesday’s edition of Noticias de Navarra states Newcastle United are pushing to sign Víctor Muñoz.

 

Within the report, they explain the Premier League side’s planning and their urgency to sign him.

 

Eddie Howe’s side are well positioned to secure the 22-year-old’s services.

 

If Muñoz impresses at the World Cup, there could be more clubs lining up to sign him.

 

To avoid this scenario, Newcastle United are ‘looking to expedite the deal’ and sign him during the World Cup.

 

The report points out their offer is on the table, which is close to his €40m release clause.

 

Osasuna, for their part, are standing firm and referring to his clause to sanction a move. In other words, the Magpies, who tabled a €35m plus bonuses bid, have to improve their offer slightly.

 

Real Madrid are silent.

 

Los Blancos retain 50% of rights and also have a buyback clause.

Real Madrid could veto his move to Newcastle United or another club.

 

As of now, they are silent and it’s unclear what their final decision is on Víctor Muñoz.

 

In the event of a sale, the La Liga giants will benefit financially, which is another reason why CA Osasuna are referring to his clause.

 

The attacker’s contract lasts until 2030 and his value, as per Transfermarkt, is €30m.

[lovejoy]

Ornstein said yesterday the Madrid buy back was €40m

[Menace]

That makes a lot more sense.

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

Ornstein said yesterday the Madrid buy back was €40m

I imagine they get a 50% discount on that number though. 

[TRon]

If we really want him I imagine we'll meet the clause and just get it done. Seems a bit pointless letting Gordon go for less than optimum if we are going to lose out on players when the deal is there if we invoke the clause. 

[Shearergol]

10 minutes ago, TRon said:

If we really want him I imagine we'll meet the clause and just get it done. Seems a bit pointless letting Gordon go for less than optimum if we are going to lose out on players when the deal is there if we invoke the clause. 

 

There's no clause for us is there? It's just for Real. Or do all players in Spain have a clause?

[Shearergol]

I should read the posts above first I guess

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Please don't spend £50m on another winger unless he's good

[kingxlnc]

9 hours ago, Nobody said:

We were too ambitious last summer, we thought getting in the champions league and probably selling our best player would meant we had to get the top tier, PL/CL ready type players.

This summer it seems we've learnt our lesson and are going for more potential than we were prepared to do last summer.

Fwiw, with hindsight last summer was obviously an absolute shit show, but it made sense at the time IMO. 

The thing is, the players we tried to sign are not too 'elite' - it's not as though we were trying to sign Osimhen and Kvaratshelia

Joao Pedro is not yet elite, neither is Ekitike - they are kind of where Isak was when we first bought him. 
Trafford is also not there yet. 
Delap is definitely not there.

Mbuemo and Cunha are also both attainable, and we were a step up from Brentford and Wolves. 

Dean Hujisen normally would be attainable after one solid season at Bournemouth but you can't compete with Real Madrid especially for a Spaniard.

Sesko has long been considered an elite striker in the making, and Man U only came in because they had their eyes on him for years - if we hadn't gone for him, they would have waited another summer. 

I would have considered Bruno, Isak, Tonali higher than the players we tried and failed to get last summer.

It was a mixture of not having the wage structure, and perhaps our change in policy to buy more established (normally the elite clubs do that) - perhaps we are not quite seen on that level externally yet. 

[sanyi75]

1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

The thing is, the players we tried to sign are not too 'elite' - it's not as though we were trying to sign Osimhen and Kvaratshelia

Joao Pedro is not yet elite, neither is Ekitike - they are kind of where Isak was when we first bought him. 
Trafford is also not there yet. 
Delap is definitely not there.

Mbuemo and Cunha are also both attainable, and we were a step up from Brentford and Wolves. 

Dean Hujisen normally would be attainable after one solid season at Bournemouth but you can't compete with Real Madrid especially for a Spaniard.

Sesko has long been considered an elite striker in the making, and Man U only came in because they had their eyes on him for years - if we hadn't gone for him, they would have waited another summer. 

I would have considered Bruno, Isak, Tonali higher than the players we tried and failed to get last summer.

It was a mixture of not having the wage structure, and perhaps our change in policy to buy more established (normally the elite clubs do that) - perhaps we are not quite seen on that level externally yet. 

Of these, perhaps only Mbeumo, who consistently performs well and plays with great motivation and enthusiasm, would have been good to buy Rayan, although he prefers to play on the right wing, but then there is Elanga, who may be faster, but overall I would have sold him.

[macphisto]

1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

The thing is, the players we tried to sign are not too 'elite' - it's not as though we were trying to sign Osimhen and Kvaratshelia

Joao Pedro is not yet elite, neither is Ekitike - they are kind of where Isak was when we first bought him. 
Trafford is also not there yet. 
Delap is definitely not there.

Mbuemo and Cunha are also both attainable, and we were a step up from Brentford and Wolves. 

Dean Hujisen normally would be attainable after one solid season at Bournemouth but you can't compete with Real Madrid especially for a Spaniard.

Sesko has long been considered an elite striker in the making, and Man U only came in because they had their eyes on him for years - if we hadn't gone for him, they would have waited another summer. 

I would have considered Bruno, Isak, Tonali higher than the players we tried and failed to get last summer.

It was a mixture of not having the wage structure, and perhaps our change in policy to buy more established (normally the elite clubs do that) - perhaps we are not quite seen on that level externally yet. 

Great post, I also wonder if the lack of senior management and a more direct line to PIF played a part by either not being able to persuade PIF to be a little more flexible with the budget or slow in authorising  moves for certain players. Who knows but it must have played a part somewhere along the line.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think we got a bit carried away with how attractive we'd be for sure. I know I did. We had won a trophy and qualified for CL, I thought we'd have people queuing up to join ahead of basket cases like Man Utd. 

[The College Dropout]

3 hours ago, r0cafella said:

I imagine they get a 50% discount on that number though. 

Not usually no.

 

A buyback is not the same as a sell-on. 

 

The buyback clauses usually prevent an immediate sale too. Real would need to keep him on the books for a season and probably not loan him out until Jan at the earliest. Which can drop their vaue. Real often just take the sell-on fee as that doesn't expire.

 

Real should do more to keep these youngsters mind. Most people don't even know Achraf Hakimi played for Real aged 8-20, he should've been a cornerstone player for the club.

[The College Dropout]

30 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I think we got a bit carried away with how attractive we'd be for sure. I know I did. We had won a trophy and qualified for CL, I thought we'd have people queuing up to join ahead of basket cases like Man Utd. 

Not without better financial terms.

 

As we've seen - the tables are easily turned in a PSR world. So the money has to be right.