RodneyCisse Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Unbelievable said: A very steep East and Gallowgate stand could maybe work, but the people living in Leazes Park would never see daylight again. Imagine something like the Mestalla: That’s an amazing stadium once you’re in, I feel like the pitch might be slightly sunken too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Another way capacity could be increased on the East and Gallowgate stands would be to build two (ore more) stands on top of each other on the same footprint, like here in the example of Franklin Field: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) The issue is that the scale of anything like that is just going to completely dominate the setting of Leazes Terrace and St. James Street. These views give a good impression of that: https://www.google.com/maps/@54.976243,-1.6210446,3a,75y,141.83h,102.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTgODrpa3fhJ6UTZt5I5MDw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9760909,-1.619656,3a,75y,230.45h,104.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1somzVKBBD62U2eSyrxrUiNQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Edited March 1, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I wonder if there's an argument to made that because the existing east stand is solid concrete, you could actually build a higher, much more transparent stand and actually increase the light that Leazes Terrace gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 The east stand is barbaric from the outside, could do with some cladding or something to make it better if it can't be changed structurly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, neesy111 said: The east stand is barbaric from the outside, could do with some cladding or something to make it better if it can't be changed structurly. I kind of like the brutalist nature to it. Shows how the ground has been developed over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-ingenious-plan-turn-st-16138611 Article claims that Staveley et al were shown these designs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) That skyscraper city thread is great. This is exactly what I was thinking of. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/newcastle-upon-tyne-st-james-park-52-405-60-000-65-000.326386/post-126410598 Edited March 1, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I wonder if there's an argument to made that because the existing east stand is solid concrete, you could actually build a higher, much more transparent stand and actually increase the light that Leazes Terrace gets. You can't really make a stand transparent. Also, light isn't really the issue, although it could be past a certain point, the main issue with building up would be the increase in scale of it and the way that would visually dominate the setting of the listed buildings. Maybe NCC's planners / conservation officers would have a completely different view on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/revealed-ingenious-plan-turn-st-16138611 Article claims that Staveley et al were shown these designs. This would honestly be awful like. Look at the fucking state of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Oh I agree. Fuck knows what's going on with the Milburn Stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I wonder if there's an argument to made that because the existing east stand is solid concrete, you could actually build a higher, much more transparent stand and actually increase the light that Leazes Terrace gets. I'm thinking that too. It's such an archaic design. It would almost certainly (and probably incredibly easy given we'll have top Saudi architects working on it) be able to be demolished and rebuilt, while increasing capacity and also maybe even with less imposition on Leazes Terrace. Edited March 1, 2022 by Izakaya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: That skyscraper city thread is great. This is exactly what I was thinking of. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/newcastle-upon-tyne-st-james-park-52-405-60-000-65-000.326386/post-126410598 Looks pretty nice in 3D. That would get you around 60-62k capacity, wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Love this - if only for the imagination - from one of the folks on Skyscraper City, including the Lords style media centre within the East Stand, enabling us to replace media/corporate in the Milburn with more seats. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/st-james-park-nufc-off-the-field-activities-stadium-issues-transfers-takeovers-history-of-club-etc.458915/page-137#post-175964289 Lords ting: https://www.theb1m.com/video/lords-media-centre-when-cricket-met-bim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Love this - if only for the imagination - from one of the folks on Skyscraper City, including the Lords style media centre within the East Stand, enabling us to replace media/corporate in the Milburn with more seats. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/st-james-park-nufc-off-the-field-activities-stadium-issues-transfers-takeovers-history-of-club-etc.458915/page-137#post-175964289 Lords ting: https://www.theb1m.com/video/lords-media-centre-when-cricket-met-bim That’s genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, neesy111 said: The east stand is barbaric from the outside, could do with some cladding or something to make it better if it can't be changed structurly. Mick Nee taste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 kNoCk It dOwN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: This would honestly be awful like. Look at the fucking state of it. Not to mention losing the Gallowgate End. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, Wilson said: Not to mention losing the Gallowgate End. Good point, that. Would gaining ‘The Delightfully Quaint Old Houses End’ make up for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: That skyscraper city thread is great. This is exactly what I was thinking of. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/newcastle-upon-tyne-st-james-park-52-405-60-000-65-000.326386/post-126410598 This is the way forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: Love this - if only for the imagination - from one of the folks on Skyscraper City, including the Lords style media centre within the East Stand, enabling us to replace media/corporate in the Milburn with more seats. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/st-james-park-nufc-off-the-field-activities-stadium-issues-transfers-takeovers-history-of-club-etc.458915/page-137#post-175964289 Lords ting: https://www.theb1m.com/video/lords-media-centre-when-cricket-met-bim This is really good actually! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: Love this - if only for the imagination - from one of the folks on Skyscraper City, including the Lords style media centre within the East Stand, enabling us to replace media/corporate in the Milburn with more seats. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/st-james-park-nufc-off-the-field-activities-stadium-issues-transfers-takeovers-history-of-club-etc.458915/page-137#post-175964289 Lords ting: https://www.theb1m.com/video/lords-media-centre-when-cricket-met-bim This is great work but making Leazes Terrace the focal point and main entrance of the ground seems a weird choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) Knock down The View, St James' Point and the Business School, do away with Barrack road and move St James' west a few hundred metres. Sorted. Edited March 2, 2022 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Here’s a SJP question that doesn’t relate to or involve relocation or expanding: If you were going to your first match all over again, and might only get to one for the foreseeable future, where would you sit for the one time awe-striking moment? Stand/row/etc. Asking for a friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 46 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Knock down The View, St James' Point and the Business School, do away with Barrack road and move St James' west a few hundred metres. Sorted. Speedy Stalin hates education, sickening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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