St James' Park

[huss9]

changed my mind as long as the new stadium is next door in leazes park.

it would mean no shut down of parts of the stadium during rebuild and it could possibly be started as soon as planning permission was granted.

just no way the east stand gets any bigger.

[MagSA]

Making the long awaited trip (30 yrs) from South Africa to watch us nexr year at home v WestHam and trying to be aware of the rules and regulations around smoking in the city and the stadium. 

Are there designated smoking areas in the stadium, do you have to leave the grounds for a smoke?

 

would appreciate some guidance please

[Infatuation Junkie]

Rebuild. With the ability to log on any time of the day and grab a ticket. 

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, MagSA said:

Making the long awaited trip (30 yrs) from South Africa to watch us nexr year at home v WestHam and trying to be aware of the rules and regulations around smoking in the city and the stadium. 

Are there designated smoking areas in the stadium, do you have to leave the grounds for a smoke?

 

would appreciate some guidance please

 

Wow, you must love having a snout 

 

Smoking isn't allowed anywhere in the ground, so you might want to stock up on some nicotine patches or gum

 

I've heard a rumour there's a smoking area being created just outside the ground at Leazes Terrace, as the club are hoping it might get "accidentally" burnt down and we get the green light for redevelopment of the East Stand

 

 

[Holloway]

19 minutes ago, MagSA said:

Making the long awaited trip (30 yrs) from South Africa to watch us nexr year at home v WestHam and trying to be aware of the rules and regulations around smoking in the city and the stadium. 

Are there designated smoking areas in the stadium, do you have to leave the grounds for a smoke?

 

would appreciate some guidance please

People having meltdowns trying to get a ticket for the match and you're flapping about whether you can light up, fair play.

What you gonna do on the flight 

[Bally21]

30 minutes ago, MagSA said:

Making the long awaited trip (30 yrs) from South Africa to watch us nexr year at home v WestHam and trying to be aware of the rules and regulations around smoking in the city and the stadium. 

Are there designated smoking areas in the stadium, do you have to leave the grounds for a smoke?

 

would appreciate some guidance please

Cannot smoke in the stadium either in seat or in concourse, also in the UK cannot smoke in any indoor area or on public transport, people in pubs will just go outside for a quick smoke, you cannot smoke in pub beer gardens even though they are outside. 

[MagSA]

6 minutes ago, Holloway said:

People having meltdowns trying to get a ticket for the match and you're flapping about whether you can light up, fair play.

What you gonna do on the flight 

good point...had to get a spot in hospitality in Barracks which is the only way I was going be guaranteed a ticket and deal the logistics of travelling to UK. So I reckon I will be in hospitality including the game for more than 4hrs. but if I waited 30 yrs for a visit I can deal with a few hours without a smoke. 

[Keegans Export]

1 minute ago, MagSA said:

good point...had to get a spot in hospitality in Barracks which is the only way I was going be guaranteed a ticket and deal the logistics of travelling to UK. So I reckon I will be in hospitality including the game for more than 4hrs. but if I waited 30 yrs for a visit I can deal with a few hours without a smoke. 

I'll be in the Barracks for West Ham too. If I see a bloke covered head-to-foot in nicotine patches pacing back and forth along the concourse I'll say hello.

[Holloway]

2 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

I'll be in the Barracks for West Ham too. If I see a bloke covered head-to-foot in nicotine patches pacing back and forth along the concourse I'll say hello.

[Izakaya]

Do people not just have a hoon on a vape in the toilets? That's what I do at the MCG. 

[Sima]

Only place I'd accommodate a new stadium is Leazes Park.

 

I think it makes perfect sense to build there, make half of the width of the pitch nearer Leazes Terrace park area and the other half (towards Barrack Road) a fanzone, club shop, etc...

[junkhead]

1 hour ago, MagSA said:

good point...had to get a spot in hospitality in Barracks which is the only way I was going be guaranteed a ticket and deal the logistics of travelling to UK. So I reckon I will be in hospitality including the game for more than 4hrs. but if I waited 30 yrs for a visit I can deal with a few hours without a smoke. 

 

Good planning sir.. you'd find that the Barracks is the perfect accomodation for the heavy smoker. You get a wristband upon entrance and after that you are free to go back downstairs as often as you wish before the game and at halftime. Not sure if it's a designated area but there's always people smoking near the side entrance. 

[BottledDog]

1 hour ago, Bally21 said:

Cannot smoke in the stadium either in seat or in concourse, also in the UK cannot smoke in any indoor area or on public transport, people in pubs will just go outside for a quick smoke, you cannot smoke in pub beer gardens even though they are outside. 

 

Wait, what!?

 

[Sima]

Just now, BottledDog said:

 

Wait, what!?

 

Aye, first I’ve heard of that.

[OverThere]

It may well be part of the plan to allow us to stew in our own juices and then come to the conclusion that a new stadium isn't so bad. If it were in Leazes it could be joined to the old stadium with a series of attractions and the old stadium used for smaller games.

[Danh1]

Just have a tab in the bogs at half time or if you’re in the safe standing area have one at your seat. 

[Bally21]

1 hour ago, Sima said:

Aye, first I’ve heard of that.

OK, obviously I've got that wrong, I will shut up now.

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by Bally21

[Pancrate1892]

2 hours ago, Sima said:

Only place I'd accommodate a new stadium is Leazes Park.

 

I think it makes perfect sense to build there, make half of the width of the pitch nearer Leazes Terrace park area and the other half (towards Barrack Road) a fanzone, club shop, etc...

When the club was in its infancy, after Newcastle rangers and west end had played here I'm sure the pitch was moved further toward strawberry place after east end became Newcastle United and started developing the ground more. 

So really....we'd be moving it back! 

[TheGuv]

2 hours ago, Danh1 said:

Just have a tab in the bogs at half time or if you’re in the safe standing area have one at your seat. 

The amount of people who do this is ridiculous. So aye, have one in the bogs 

 

I’m a smoker and even I can wait during the game. It always makes me chuckle like. 

[madras]

25 minutes ago, TheGuv said:

The amount of people who do this is ridiculous. So aye, have one in the bogs 

 

I’m a smoker and even I can wait during the game. It always makes me chuckle like. 

Sure it's not a cough?

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, Bally21 said:

OK, obviously I've got that wrong, I will shut up now.

 

 

 

 

You haven’t. Quite a lot of beer gardens are no smoking but have designated smoking areas. The rear courtyard at the Quaysider for example is no smoking.

[OptimusSlime]

I just don’t think building in Leazes Park is as viable as many seem to think on here.  It’s a Grade II listed Victorian park.  
 

I don’t go there often but I see bigger barriers to building there than I do Leazes Terrace.

 

The only viable site I can think of for a new city centre stadium is where the arena is.  Other than that you are out in the sticks.

[ponsaelius]

It wouldn't/couldn't be directly on Leazes Park. It would have to be primarily on the Castle Leazes area of the town moor to the north of LP - with perhaps only a small part of the footprint encroaching the edge of the existing Leazes Park. And you would have to offset this by extending the existing park down to Strawberry Place.

 

Worth noting that the university have been looking to rebuild their Castle Leazes accomodation. Buying that site together with Castle Leazes Town Moor would give a very big footprint to develop. It does push the ground further away from the centre though.

[OptimusSlime]

4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

It wouldn't/couldn't be directly on Leazes Park. It would have to be primarily on the Castle Leazes area of the town moor to the north of LP - with perhaps only a small part of the footprint encroaching the edge of the existing Leazes Park. And you would have to offset this by extending the existing park down to Strawberry Place.

 

Worth noting that the university have been looking to rebuild their Castle Leazes accomodation. Buying that site together with Castle Leazes Town Moor would give a very big footprint to develop. It does push the ground further away from the centre though.

I get a bit confused about the various moors but are we basically talking about building on partly student accommodation and partly grass e.g. the town moor?  Where the freemen graze the cows?

 

Again would see huge opposition from environmentalists to that added to the complex ownership of that land (council the land and freemen of the city the turf).

[ponsaelius]

I don't think we'd have the level of opposition we did in the 90s tbh. The council and freemen were in support of the previous project, and I'd imagine would be again. I think public support would generally be increased too with a clearer justification for needing to rebuild.

 

If you extended the existing park right down to Strawberry Place that would actually be a huge benefit to the city which has few proper green/recreational spaces in the centre. The biodiversity value of The Moor isn't even that great either. 

 

Again for me it's the only option if we can't extend the Gallowgate and East Stand to achieve 60-65k. Keeps the stadium as the centre piece of the city.

 

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by ponsaelius