TBG Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Could we not just move Leazes Terrace? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: That emotions not sense surely? Football is all about emotions though, they're a valid factor - it's sensible to take emotions into account. Edited February 4 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Interpolic said: I've said many times on here - I don't want to leave SJP, it's a proper football ground and I've yet to see a new build in this country that isn't completely naff in comparison. I don't aspire to be Spurs. I accept progress may be a bit slower taking this route. I do not accept that we actually need to do this to compete. I do not accept we should make a forever decision based on PSR rules which may end up being relatively short-lived. I'm not looking to argue, just to understand your view. Why's it a "proper football ground" ? What I see is a hodge podge of a few different eras and none of it sits well together. The newest bits are 25 years old and the entire place was left to rot under Ashley The location is iconic, but the buildings in their current form I've never been that arsed about. It's just not a very good stadium design for many reasons. However I did have a lot of love for the mid 90's SJP in terms of how it looked and what that era meant to me. Edited February 4 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, TBG said: Could we not just move Leazes Terrace? Yeah, brick by brick!🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Club just need to come out and make it official. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Happy with this although it wipes out where i sit in leazes corner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Needs to be 75k+. Other than that, very happy. Surprised they've not had push back from locals and councils, get the club got them paid off early doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, LFEE said: That emotions not sense surely? There's no separation between the two really. There's sense in wanting to preserve the things that are a big part of your personal connection with the club and wanting to reject the things that corrode that connection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: I'm not looking to argue, just to understand your view. Why's it a "proper football ground" ? What I see is a hodge podge of a few different eras and none of it sits well together. It's also 25 years old and was neglected for 14 of those years of under Ashley The location is iconic, but the buildings in their current form I've never been that arsed about. It's just not a very good stadium design for many reasons. However I did have a lot of love for the mid 90's SJP in terms of how it looked and what that era meant to me. Thanks for asking the question respectfully vs One is a proper football ground and on a good day when the crowd is up for it, it can still give you the chills. The other one has been made for a bit of football, a bit of NFL, a few gigs. The new one looks like a spaceship/shopping mall hybrid and the atmosphere/experience is by all accounts very artificial despite us being told for a decade before it would be the one that bucked the trend. I don't care about extra room in the concourse or micro breweries or other gimmicks, I'm there to see the match in a way that is somewhat comparable to how I always have. Nobody's ever answered my question about a new ground that's been built in the UK that generates a decent atmosphere, I assume that's because it doesn't exist. But no I have no sense for valuing what we'd be giving up and for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) In regards to the Everton comments, I've walked past that new ground and lt looks very impressive TBF, the steep safe standing end is exactly what I'd want at Newcastle... Edited February 4 by NUFC91 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/02/04/newcastle-united-st-james-park-new-stadium-leazes-park/?utm_content=football&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1738669244 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, MagCA said: This would be my preferred option. Make it happen, Brad. I really don't have much sway here but I'll do what I can. Edited February 4 by Ameritoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Thanks for asking the question respectfully vs One is a proper football ground and on a good day when the crowd is up for it, it can still give you the chills. The other one has been made for a bit of football, a bit of NFL, a few gigs. The new one looks like a spaceship/shopping mall hybrid and the atmosphere/experience is by all accounts very artificial despite us being told for a decade before it would be the one that bucked the trend. I don't care about extra room in the concourse or micro breweries or other gimmicks, I'm there to see the match in a way that is somewhat comparable to how I always have. Nobody's ever answered my question about a new ground that's been built in the UK that generates a decent atmosphere, I assume that's because it doesn't exist. But no I have no sense for valuing what we'd be giving up and for this. Is that the general consensus of fans whose clubs have shifted to new stadiums? That the experience/atmosphere is artificial? Do you reckon they would go back given a chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 18 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: Yeah, brick by brick!🤔 They've decided t move the East Stand instead, prick by prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, TRon said: Is that the general consensus of fans whose clubs have shifted to new stadiums? That the experience/atmosphere is artificial? Do you reckon they would go back given a chance? Not being funny but alot of that is nonsense from fans as well, St James park atmosphere is crap now so won't get any worse, same as it man utd build a new ground the atmosphere won't get any worse as it's already crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, TRon said: Is that the general consensus of fans whose clubs have shifted to new stadiums? That the experience/atmosphere is artificial? Do you reckon they would go back given a chance? I guess it depends on the fanbase and their prior circumstances. Highbury and WHL were shitholes so they needed to move or redevelop. Arsenal are already exploring moving from the Emirates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Thanks for asking the question respectfully vs One is a proper football ground and on a good day when the crowd is up for it, it can still give you the chills. The other one has been made for a bit of football, a bit of NFL, a few gigs. The new one looks like a spaceship/shopping mall hybrid and the atmosphere/experience is by all accounts very artificial despite us being told for a decade before it would be the one that bucked the trend. I don't care about extra room in the concourse or micro breweries or other gimmicks, I'm there to see the match in a way that is somewhat comparable to how I always have. Nobody's ever answered my question about a new ground that's been built in the UK that generates a decent atmosphere, I assume that's because it doesn't exist. But no I have no sense for valuing what we'd be giving up and for this. Tell me of an old ground that generates a decent atmosphere then? Please don't say SJP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Can we just please not have a supermarket underneath it like Spurs, cheapens the fuck out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Fenham Mag said: Can we just please not have a supermarket underneath it like Spurs, cheapens the fuck out of it. Not even a Waitrose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, ponsaelius said: Obviously the footprint is approximated but still think that will end up being a nightmare at planning. Could see it taking forever and ultimately getting called into SoS if recommended for approval. I also still don't see how you build it without some time spent elsewhere during construction, the amount of which would vary depending on final footprint. Still think Castle Leazes would be far easier... I'm pretty sure the people involved know what they're doing. You're just guessing with your ifs and buts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: Not being funny but alot of that is nonsense from fans as well, St James park atmosphere is crap now so won't get any worse, same as it man utd build a new ground the atmosphere won't get any worse as it's already crap. Honestly that was my impression as well. I can't really tell the difference between the atmosphere at old grounds and new ones, apart from West Ham since they moved to the London stadium. Upton Park used to generate a louder atmosphere but that was because it was a lot smaller and tighter area I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 17 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Thanks for asking the question respectfully vs One is a proper football ground and on a good day when the crowd is up for it, it can still give you the chills. The other one has been made for a bit of football, a bit of NFL, a few gigs. The new one looks like a spaceship/shopping mall hybrid and the atmosphere/experience is by all accounts very artificial despite us being told for a decade before it would be the one that bucked the trend. I don't care about extra room in the concourse or micro breweries or other gimmicks, I'm there to see the match in a way that is somewhat comparable to how I always have. Nobody's ever answered my question about a new ground that's been built in the UK that generates a decent atmosphere, I assume that's because it doesn't exist. But no I have no sense for valuing what we'd be giving up and for this. The current ground doesn't create a good atmosphere. Too many people just go and have no intention of singing. So we'll be no worse off in terms of atmosphere if we move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 36 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: Football is all about emotions though, they're a valid factor - it's sensible to take emotions into account. The debate was over the most sensible decision. Not the best emotional one. Football is emotional and those attached closely to the club. The ground isn’t ultimately. It’s part of it’s history like the players and managers and owners of course but it’s nothing like what it was in 1983 when I started going and I’m sure prior 1983 and my attendance it wasn’t anything like what it was either. Doesn’t stop me feeling emotional about my club just because the ground has evolved. The current seat next to mine has my late dad’s name still on it even though he’s no longer with us to occupy it. That will go I know. Arguing you can’t form new emotions in a new stadium I find ridiculous. Think about the people who can’t get in. Think of the emotions being able to go will create or the emotions of the parents who would have more chance to take their children etc. I get emotions. I wouldn’t have fought so hard for a change of ownership if the club was merely transactional to me. I personally didn’t fight so hard for the takeover to still get left behind. I’ve still got the “We don’t demand a team that wins, we demand a club that tries” banner in my outhouse and stand by every word of it. Those that know me will know I encourage people with strong views regardless what they are to voice them to the official channels if it really means that much to them. We are talking about sense though. Which I see is different and usually when you act sensibly you take the sensible decision not the emotional one. That was my point. That and I think the club is trying for us. Which is what I demanded. Anyway… what will be will be. I’ll leave you all to debate it until an official announcement is made. I think I said that last week but sticking to it this time unless I get called names of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Scoot said: I'm pretty sure the people involved know what they're doing. You're just guessing with your ifs and buts. The people involved will be guessing too, with more information, but still mostly educated guesswork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoForJoy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Dokko said: Needs to be 75k+. Other than that, very happy. Surprised they've not had push back from locals and councils, get the club got them paid off early doors. Agreed. Its has to be bigger than 75,118 the Mackem record attendance. Edited February 4 by TwoForJoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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