St James' Park

[ponsaelius]

12 minutes ago, Disco said:

Aye they’re absolutely rank. Looks like a Chinese rail terminal.

 

For a train station it doesn't really matter because you don't have any architectural cues to go from in terms of shape. A bit like why modern art galleries can often be statement art pieces in themselves - there is not really a form you need to follow other than whatever plot you have to work with (although there's an irony in many starchitect designed galleries being shit for curating inside because they've been designed outside-in).

 

A football stadium has such a clear cue for it's design. It's a four sided rectangle. That should be your form that you build around - and the stands are an embellishment of that base form for which you get character and distinctiveness. Ignoring that form and deliberately building a shape that ignores that, and masks the entire purpose of the facility, is just poor architectural design for me. Or it's a deliberate attempt to say to the world 'this is not a football stadium, it's an events facility'.

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by ponsaelius

[gjohnson]

1 hour ago, manorpark said:

 

Or "New St James' Park"

 

or, £100M sponsorship from Saudia Airlines, so - Saudia at New St James' Park

The Mecca (save the bingo comments) of England...sponsored by PIF. All Saudi Nationals required to visit annually with a govt supplied financial tribute

[Whitley mag]

 

[gjohnson]

On 11/03/2025 at 18:32, Ben said:

 

Nah, I can't see that making any difference at all, Man Utds plan relies on finding the money, the conservative Labour government, Rat face actually getting a plan that works and the Glazers.

 

Far to many road blocks for that to go smoothly 

Agree....apparently Man U have barely got enough to buy a bowl of soup....so unless their on field stuff improves rapidly, it'll probably take a blind, insane thick skinned billionaire for them to build it. Wait, they already got that....and it seems he's tighter than Mike Ashley's belt after a night on the curry and pints. 

 

All posturing at the minute and will likely be years before any actual progress

[Danh1]

32 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Shhh man, people like to be "underwhelmed"

 

Great news in terms of the intentions of our owners. 

Why use data to ensure we get the right capacity to both satisfy demand but also stop any empty seats when we can have a soopa doopa 100,000 seater so we can brag about how big our stadium is 

[Danh1]

24 minutes ago, Adam said:

I just hope they keep people together. I've got a great group of lads around me and would want to stay in the similar areas next to the same folk. 

This needs to be one of the crucial things. Not just keeping season ticket holders together where wanted, but having people sitting with their mates. 

[Pearljam10]

Luke Edwards

 

According to Newcastle United this evening they have not decided on capacity of new stadium, various options are being looked at for land adjacent to SJP, of varying sizes. Also adamant that final decision on whether to build new home or expand SJP has still not been made, presumably because PIF have to make it. Preferred option is a new stadium internally. I think we all need to wait for final plan to be made public. As frustrating as it is waiting #nufc

[JT24]

1 minute ago, Pearljam10 said:

Luke Edwards

 

According to Newcastle United this evening they have not decided on capacity of new stadium, various options are being looked at for land adjacent to SJP, of varying sizes. Also adamant that final decision on whether to build new home or expand SJP has still not been made, presumably because PIF have to make it. Preferred option is a new stadium internally. I think we all need to wait for final plan to be made public. As frustrating as it is waiting #nufc

One day, lads. One day.

[Doctor Zaius]

4 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

 

 

So he got the capacity and the location wrong, but then has turned around and said - they've changed plans.

 

Almost like fools like him, don't actually have a clue...

[Keegans Export]

It's a 25% increase tbf and I understand the concept of ensuring demand outstrips supply.

 

What matters is what they do with the capacity. Obviously they'll want to increase the corporate offering but making sure there's a substantial signing/standing area too is essential in my opinion. 

[Keegans Export]

2 minutes ago, Pearljam10 said:

Luke Edwards

 

According to Newcastle United this evening they have not decided on capacity of new stadium, various options are being looked at for land adjacent to SJP, of varying sizes. Also adamant that final decision on whether to build new home or expand SJP has still not been made, presumably because PIF have to make it. Preferred option is a new stadium internally. I think we all need to wait for final plan to be made public. As frustrating as it is waiting #nufc

My irony meter just exploded...

[AyeDubbleYoo]

31 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Exactly. No wonder we get called twisty badtsrds that are never happy.

 

65,000, 13,000 more people is absolutely fine.

 

If we go 70k + and then we have a bad season some "fans" will start finding excuses why they can't go and there'll be empty seats. 

Don’t think anyone is moaning or twisting. Just might think that if you’re going to build once a lifetime you should go big. We could probably sell another 15k season tickets if we wanted. 

[ExiledGeordie]

65k does seem quite small an increase but I guess they have their reasons. I was thinking 70-75 but no more than that. 

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by ExiledGeordie

[54]

27 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said:

65k is pure Europa League ceiling like.

Than Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea & Man City are all Europa League.

[Collage]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Fwiw

 

 

That's absolutely horrible.

[Big Geordie]

I agree that 65k is canny, as long as there is room for future expansion. I'd also be a up for a look which is in keeping with the city and the area.  

[gbandit]

Not going to get too invested until we get some actual real news on this, about what it’ll look like, where it’ll be and what the capacity will be. So far we’ve just had loads of conflicting press pieces every few weeks 

[Geogaddi]

Does seem a bit pointless just for an extra 13k seats .

[Kid Icarus]

Modern stadiums tend to look like huge games consoles.

[NUFC_Chris]

Doubt it’ll be 65K. In Mark Douglas’ piece in the i paper a couple of days ago he was saying 68-69K. I’d guess this is  speculation with a kernel of truth thrown in that we will indeed be moving stadiums.

 

All the details re capacity etc won’t yet have been decided. 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by NUFC_Chris

[Wallsendmag]

1 hour ago, Slim said:

Presume they have enough data to know what the capacity should be so not going to worry about it.

 

In their own words a members chance of ballot success is around 1 in 4 so it would seem an extra 8/9k extra non hospitality seats will still be undercooking things a fair bit. This means that they can keep ticket prices high with supply not increasing all that much.

[toontownman]

Yeah. Best just to wait until things are official before we get in a tizzy. 65k seems low would have at least expected 5-10k more. It's fine if it's built to be expanded as needed though.

[TK-421]

As long as theres decent scope to expand/add more seats/tiers in future if/when needed, then I think a new 65,000 stadium is fine.

Shame though, that it seems it wont be right next to/overlap the leazes end of the stadium during the build, as had been guessed.

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by TK-421

[christ]

I dunno like but I tend to trust people at the club who have all of the data and not a bunch of people on the internet who get a semi-on at big numbers.

[Vedder]

As an ex-season ticket holder, now member, 65k would be very disappointing. If the team becomes more successful, which I guess is the aim, tickets will become harder and harder to get. Also think there’s a big trend for people wanting to go to see live sport. I think Arsenal, Spurs and the likes wish they had built bigger stadiums.