St James' Park

[midds]

Probably being a bit bullish here but I think we sell out 80k against virtually any opponent right now. The demand is there right now imo, people want to see this team and as we improve it'll only get a more and more desirable ticket to have. Bromley at home in the cup went to ballot. How many missed out? How many didn't apply because they knew they'd probably miss out? 

 

Confident we'd fill 80k virtually every game

[et tu brute]

1 hour ago, Danh1 said:

Wonder what the correlation is between people who are happy to have 5/10k empty seats and those who mock the mackems. 
 

No correlation as we won't try and argue that there wasn't that many seats unsold and any figure is based on seats sold not actually in attendance, like those thick fuckers do. I believe we will sell out anyway so it will be a moot question anyway

[Danh1]

25 minutes ago, midds said:

Probably being a bit bullish here but I think we sell out 80k against virtually any opponent right now. The demand is there right now imo, people want to see this team and as we improve it'll only get a more and more desirable ticket to have. Bromley at home in the cup went to ballot. How many missed out? How many didn't apply because they knew they'd probably miss out? 

 

Confident we'd fill 80k virtually every game

There’s about 600 tickets available in level 7 for the Bromley game. Do appreciate that it’s just after Christmas and quite pricey for a cup game against unglamorous opposite, mind 

[HawK]

1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said:

What utter fucking AIDS that’d be.

 

Yup !

[LFEE]

56 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

You make a some good points, particular around ticket prices. 
 

You know my views, I want to somehow stay at SJP, build a big fuck off stand behind the goal. I have accepted it’ll be a case of moving and just hope we get it right. 
 

I read bits from Spurs fans on social media (I kna, I kna) and it’s scary. Some of them feel detached from the club. Away fans all over the ground.

Yes but Spurs had a smaller specific fanbase than ours then and doubled the size of their stadium that they didn’t always fill. We are looking to to add 20-25k on to get mainly fans locked out after leaving because of Ashley and Rafa debacle. Levy’s plan was far more calculated.

[Wandy]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

I could see Arsenal going bigger and possibly Liverpool at some stage, though that looks very difficult for them anytime soon, due to the number of streets they need demolished for the Kenny Dalglish stand.

 

What worries me though is that they have huge international fan bases, with fans travelling from all over to watch them, they also have far bigger catchment areas locally, not sure how we fill 70k plus regularly if I’m being honest.

 

Chelsea and West Ham could possibly end up over 65k, but again huge catchment areas and prime location to capture the football tourists.

 

Possibly 70k but would need to really rethink their pricing to fill that up here in my opinion.

 

Do they have bigger local catchment areas? We have an entire quarter of the country to ourselves, something that they dont. If we were to be successful too I could see us having a significant following north of the border too.

[Stifler]

Arsenal are going bigger, they announced their intention a few weeks back. They want to go up to 80k, but it means that they have to move their roof up, and add a tier.

They also need to upgrade a few Underground stations nearby.

[Chris_R]

2 hours ago, Danh1 said:

Wonder what the correlation is between people who are happy to have 5/10k empty seats and those who mock the mackems. 
 

 

Not sure anyone mocks the mackems for having empty seats. We mock them for the club blatantly lying about attendances, about the mackems patting themselves on the back for the "attendances", and the fact that as a fanbase they so blind with rage about us they spend vast energies coming up with excuses as to why they aren't selling out all the time.

 

If the club just announced 25k like is probably in the ground most weeks and owned that number collectively as a fanbase, then fair enough. Nothing to mock.

[duo]

2 hours ago, midds said:

Probably being a bit bullish here but I think we sell out 80k against virtually any opponent right now. The demand is there right now imo, people want to see this team and as we improve it'll only get a more and more desirable ticket to have. Bromley at home in the cup went to ballot. How many missed out? How many didn't apply because they knew they'd probably miss out? 

 

Confident we'd fill 80k virtually every game

Regular seats aren't what are going to bring us the real £££ it's corporate hospitality - thats's where we need to up our game.

[TomYam]

2 hours ago, Wandy said:

 

Do they have bigger local catchment areas? We have an entire quarter of the country to ourselves, something that they dont. If we were to be successful too I could see us having a significant following north of the border too.

Entire quarter of the country?

 

I believe Northumberland & Durham comprises 6% of England's geographical area. The population of our region is no more than 4% of England. Our remoteness (like Devon & Cornwall) is both a strength and weakness; a strong local platform but far fewer tourists and less money swishing about.

 

Your final sentence is interesting. There is massive potential to expand our fanbase in Scotland. We really should be the best supported English club in Scotland due to proximity and history. 

 

Back to sweet spots, I've long thought 72,00 is an ideal capacity. 

 

[Whitley mag]

4 hours ago, Danh1 said:

There’s about 600 tickets available in level 7 for the Bromley game. Do appreciate that it’s just after Christmas and quite pricey for a cup game against unglamorous opposite, mind 

I would imagine these will go by the time game comes round, but telling that there not returns by Bromley so we’ve probably shifted aprox 46k with their larger allocation.

 

Pretty impressive considering the opposition, however in a way it confirms my point about supply and demand, if this was Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool they would be not be slow moving tickets they would be gone.

 

We are a huge club but outside Mancs, Arsenal and Liverpool not sure anyone in this country fills a 70k plus stadium regularly, possibly Spurs who have a huge waiting list. Taking this Bromley game as an example we’d now potentially have another 23.5k tickets to shift with a 75k stadium.

 

The 2 NW clubs are in split city’s, but they’re significantly bigger population wise and more importantly surrounded by densely populated big towns packed full of their supporters.

 

I agree Scotland and potentially Scandinavia, Ireland are areas we can benefit from in terms of growing our wider fanbase, but to the level of the 3 clubs mentioned  will take years.

 

I think outside the clubs membership data, it would be really useful if they created a season ticket waiting list to gauge what the demand is really like from fans who want to be there every week.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Whitley mag

[TheBrownBottle]

I’d build as big as the site allows.  You simply close off upper tiers for early cup games against lower league opposition.  A successful (as in winning things) NUFC sells out 80k for me - provided pricing is reasonable.  With a massive ground, you can milk the corporate but also hold say 15k tickets in the upper tiers for low income supporters.  60-65k keeps it as it is - it locks out huge swathes of low income supporters.  It’s meant to be the people’s game.  

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, TomYam said:

Entire quarter of the country?

 

I believe Northumberland & Durham comprises 6% of England's geographical area. The population of our region is no more than 4% of England. Our remoteness (like Devon & Cornwall) is both a strength and weakness; a strong local platform but far fewer tourists and less money swishing about.

 

Your final sentence is interesting. There is massive potential to expand our fanbase in Scotland. We really should be the best supported English club in Scotland due to proximity and history. 

 

Back to sweet spots, I've long thought 72,00 is an ideal capacity. 

 

Effectively Cumbria and N Yorks gets added to that catchment area as well as the borders - unless Berwick, Carlisle, the Smoggies or Mackems suddenly become successful.  I don’t think our catchment area is limited to Nland and Durham.