St James' Park

[AyeDubbleYoo]

7 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

It would be cool if we could have a wrap around the stadium like they do with Soldier Field in Chicago. 
 

 

Obviously a different kind of stadium in the middle but having the old Roman style facade is pretty cool. 

 

Echoing some of the city architecture would be great actually. 

[Scoot]

24 minutes ago, Slim said:

Presume they have enough data to know what the capacity should be so not going to worry about it.

 

Shhh man, people like to be "underwhelmed"

 

Great news in terms of the intentions of our owners. 

[Sibierski]

People moaning about 65k  Can never win the club.

 

If it’s 75k+, there’s going to be such a spread of fans, day trippiers, that the atmosphere would turn to shit. 65k allows the growth, keep supply and demand high and when club eventually becomes more successful, keeps the plastics to a minimum. 

[Paullow]

I know there's other benefits, corporate, concerts etc. but just from a pure capacity POV, 12-13,000 extra seats hardly seems worth the hassell of a new build. 70-75k would have been much more of a statement and felt far more significant.

 

I'd image a fair few clubs will be going over 65k in a few years, a bit like what happened when we originally increased to 52k.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Capacity is fine. This is amazing news if true, so glad the club have gone with the new stadium. It will absolutely transform the Leazes Park area.

[Dr.Spaceman]

1 minute ago, Paullow said:

I know there's other benefits, corporate, concerts etc. but just from a pure capacity POV, 12-13,000 extra seats hardly seems worth the hassell of a new build. 70-75k would have been much more of a statement and felt far more significant.

 

I'd image a fair few clubs will be going over 65k in a few years, a bit like what happened when we originally increased to 52k.

 

Howay, there's a lot more to it than just an extra few seats...

[Scoot]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

People moaning about 65k  Can never win the club.

 

If it’s 75k+, there’s going to be such a spread of fans, day trippiers, that the atmosphere would turn to shit. 65k allows the growth, keep supply and demand high and when club eventually becomes more successful, keeps the plastics to a minimum. 

 

Exactly. No wonder we get called twisty badtsrds that are never happy.

 

65,000, 13,000 more people is absolutely fine.

 

If we go 70k + and then we have a bad season some "fans" will start finding excuses why they can't go and there'll be empty seats. 

[Wolfcastle]

65k is a fine as a base. Defnitely don't want to limit ourselves to that though. Got 52,000 every game in the championship mostly because of Rafa after all.

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

People moaning about 65k  Can never win the club.

 

If it’s 75k+, there’s going to be such a spread of fans, day trippiers, that the atmosphere would turn to shit. 65k allows the growth, keep supply and demand high and when club eventually becomes more successful, keeps the plastics to a minimum. 

 

There will be day-trippers no matter what the capacity is. If it's only 65k that means that locals will still find it difficult to get in as a lot of the extra 13k seats will go corporate.

 

It boggles my mind that even up here, in our own back yard, there are so many people that don't realise the potential of this club. There must be 65k applying for games right now and we haven't even won anything yet. Are the club really going to be happy to see 10/15k people locked out of games if we become an elite club?

[Whitley mag]

I think 65k is spot on, if the data said we’d fill 70k every week that’s what they’d build.

[Scoot]

Just now, Wandy said:

 

There will be day-trippers no matter what the capacity is. If it's only 65k that means that locals will still find it difficult to get in as a lot of the extra 13k seats will go corporate.

 

It boggles my mind that even up here, in our own back yard, there are so many people that don't realise the potential of this club. There must be 65k applying for games right now and we haven't even won anything yet. Are the club really going to be happy to see 10/15k people locked out of games if we become an elite club?

 

I'm sure they've studied data to know what capacity it needs to be.

[Adam]

I just hope they keep people together. I've got a great group of lads around me and would want to stay in the similar areas next to the same folk. 

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

People moaning about 65k  Can never win the club.

 

If it’s 75k+, there’s going to be such a spread of fans, day trippiers, that the atmosphere would turn to shit. 65k allows the growth, keep supply and demand high and when club eventually becomes more successful, keeps the plastics to a minimum. 

That's a description of why it's bad.  

[Stifler]

As someone else has said, it clearly indicates that we are going on Castle Leazes, which is where I have said we would go all along.

65k capacity is a bit of a downer, it’s 5k less than I would ideally want. Hopefully though it has room for expansion, and it shouldn’t really be leaving us behind others, which SJP is now doing to us.

[Wandy]

3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

I think 65k is spot on, if the data said we’d fill 70k every week that’s what they’d build.

 

I've always thought that 70k is the sweet spot and I still think so. It would also allow us to beat our highest ever attendance. That in itself would be a statement of where the club now was.

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Wandy

[Kid Icarus]

46 minutes ago, 54 said:

The Joel Bland is such a bullshit merchant

 

That said, if we could have a stadium with a roof like that Vegas one, that'd be sick.

He definitely has sources tbf like

[UncleBingo]

Would have preferred 70k+ but 65k with the possibility to expand would be canny. 

Great news for the club and city.

[jack j]

How many pages/weeks until the next "exclusive" from hope/edwards/waugh or douglas then? I'll go the week before the end of the season

[Disco]

46 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Again I must reiterate my severe dislike for all of these amorphous blob, externally clad stadiums that look like they could just as easily be an airport terminal or train station from the outside, and are largely indistinct from one another. They will age terribly IMO.

 

All football stadiums should have four clearly definable sides. 

Aye they’re absolutely rank. Looks like a Chinese rail terminal.

[Holloway]

I want a 77k castle like theme, done out in sandstone. Nip up to Northumberland for ideas and inspiration 

[Whitley mag]

2 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

I've always thought that 70k is the sweet spot and I still think so. It would also allow us to beat our highest ever attendance. That in itself would be a statement of where the club now was.

 

 

 

I’ve got no doubt we’d get 70k for a lot of games, but seen something a while back that showed what percentage of local population would need to attend match to fill 70k, think ours would have to be far in excess of anything in the country to achieve it.

 

I think 65k with possibility to extend if needed would be sensible approach, could destroy soul of club playing in a stadium to big with swathes of empty seats if they get it wrong.

 

 

[GEFAFWISP]

65k is pure Europa League ceiling like.

[Sima]

As long as there is room for expansion, 65K is an acceptable starting point.

[Wandy]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

I’ve got no doubt we’d get 70k for a lot of games, but seen something a while back that showed what percentage of local population would need to attend match to fill 70k, think ours would have to be far in excess of anything in the country to achieve it.

 

I think 65k with possibility to extend if needed would be sensible approach, could destroy soul of club playing in a stadium to big with swathes of empty seats if they get it wrong.

 

 

 

If there is potential for expansion then I will take it. If we become a regular top 5 club though I could see them soon realising the error of not starting at 70k.

[gjohnson]

3 minutes ago, Holloway said:

I want a 77k castle like theme, done out in sandstone. Nip up to Northumberland for ideas and inspiration 

Nip down to Shields and mock up a few sandcastles....would be great if we could have something that looks externally if not structurally like the actual Castle