St James' Park

[TBG]

Walking past the gound there now and it looks like they've started work on the fan zone. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Are people taking the piss about this brick by brick stuff?

[TheGuv]

The Royal Arcade was taken down brick by brick, and numbered to be rebuilt. And they ‘lost’ the numbers apparently and couldn’t rebuild it. 
 

A lot of the stones are in Heaton Park and littered around Byker, Walker I think. I’m sure @manorpark will confirm

[Stal]

Beamish has done the brick by brick thing on several occasions. No idea what the full story is here, I just thought I'd pop in with a bit of brick by brick trivia.

 

Edit: read the previous pages to catch up. I was clearly just too excited to share what I learned on a school trip once.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Stal

[Nucasol]

16 minutes ago, Stal said:

Beamish has done the brick by brick thing on several occasions. No idea what the full story is here, I just thought I'd pop in with a bit of brick by brick trivia.

 

Edit: read the previous pages to catch up. I was clearly just too excited to share what I learned on a school trip once.

 

 

 

[manorpark]

2 hours ago, TheGuv said:

The Royal Arcade was taken down brick by brick, and numbered to be rebuilt. And they ‘lost’ the numbers apparently and couldn’t rebuild it. 
 

A lot of the stones are in Heaton Park and littered around Byker, Walker I think. I’m sure @manorpark will confirm

 

The Royal Arcade was built in 1831 by those giant figures of Newcastle history, Richard Grainger and John Dobson. Constructed in a classical Greek style, the poet Sir John Betjeman, over 100 years later, described the Arcade as “a highlight of classical town planning” - and one of the 36 most famous vanished monuments in Britain. Originally a Corn Exchange, it would soon become a home to shops, as well as banks, offices, a post office, an auction room, and steam and vapour baths. With its domes and stone columns, It was hailed as the finest example of its kind in the country.

However, over time it was destined to become Grainger’s least successful venture. While Newcastle’s retail trade continued to grow around the Grey’s Monument area, many shoppers just didn’t fancy trudging down to the bottom of Pilgrim Street. The Royal Arcade was considered for demolition as early as the 1880s, and that decision was finally rubber-stamped decades later in the early 1960s after a long period of decline.

 

When they dismantled the Royal Arcade they decided that they could reassemble it within Swan House which stood on the roundabout. All of the ornate stone work was taken to a Council site in Shieldfield and every piece was numbered to make re-assembly easy. Unfortunately the paint they used was water based and when they came to rebuild it the numbers had washed off. It was considered too problematic to sort it out and in their wisdom the City Council decided to make a pastiche “new arcade" utilising fibreglass moulds taken of the original stones but made with new cheaper materials. That is still there today inside the latest restaurant beneath 55 Degrees North;

 

The Swan House Roundabout with the new pastiche Royal Arcade inside Swan House and the car park beneath was initially completed with the Employment exchange inside and Australia House attached to it.

 

The remaining original stones are laid all through Armstrong Park and Heaton Park as are some stones saved from the old Town Hall from the foot of Bigg Market and Cloth Market. When it was conceded that it would be impossible to re-assemble these stones in their original formation, the City Council agreed to distribute them in the mentioned Parks, at least preserving some remnant of our heritage. The stones are still there today and can be seen if you look for them.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by manorpark

[TomYam]

2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Are people taking the piss about this brick by brick stuff?

Some are (naughty things). Some aren't (thickies).

[Interpolic]

3 hours ago, TBG said:

Walking past the gound there now and it looks like they've started work on the fan zone. 

 

Yeah they have been on it a few weeks, my new office looks straight out on to it

[bobbydazzla]

@manorpark just casually dropping a victorian architectural salvage porn story

 

By Jove, my loins haven't stirred this much since I observed Miss Fanny Quickscuttle revealing her ankles on the back steps of the music hall

 

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I thought I had been in that arcade before 55 Degrees North was built, but I guess it would’ve been the recreated fake version. 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

Said it before. Easiest way is to incorporate those buildings within the new stand. 

Make a feature of it. Leave the far sides as the actually entrances. 

Simples

Doesn't seem to be worth it when the side you'd see is an arse end compared to the facade facing the east stand?  

 

They'd have to reproduce the facade on the other side which probably defeats the whole idea and may as well knock the cunt down 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

That's just minor detail though

 

If we can move Leazes Terrace brick by brick, then doing the same to St James Street will be a piece of piss

 

Wonder if we could relocate both terraces to NEOM, that place could do with some historical buildings 

 

 

 

 

 

The gadgey who owns st James terrace is open to selling them to the club. I can't believe they would do a feasibility study without taking up such an option? 

[LFEE]

The other plus point of building a massive new stadium is basically a statement In saying we are/aiming to be the biggest club in England. 
 

Massive pull for players also despite what Charnley claimed ?

[STM]

50 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

@manorpark just casually dropping a victorian architectural salvage porn story

 

By Jove, my loins haven't stirred this much since I observed Miss Fanny Quickscuttle revealing her ankles on the back steps of the music hall

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks I've now got the name Fanny Quickscuttle in my head and intend to use it at every opportunity.

[ennyoueffsea]

4 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Are people taking the piss about this brick by brick stuff?

 

Just seen this in the latest edition of Groundtastic. Nee mention of the terrace with St James Street though.

[bobbydazzla]

Hello, this is Albert Gubbins calling from NUFC. I’d like to enquire about whether your architecture firm could help me with relocating Leazes Terrace into the nearby park, brick by brick.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[TheBrownBottle]

11 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

That's just minor detail though

 

If we can move Leazes Terrace brick by brick, then doing the same to St James Street will be a piece of piss

 

Wonder if we could relocate both terraces to NEOM, that place could do with some historical buildings 

 

 

 

 

 

An expensive and badly-thought out folly is exactly the place for those building for me.  

[TheBrownBottle]

3 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

Hello, this is Albert Gubbins calling from NUFC. I’d like to enquire about whether your architecture firm could help me with relocating Leazes Terrace into the nearby park, brick by brick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Classic  

[timeEd32]

How long do some people still have on the long-term season ticket deals and what is the price difference between those and current prices? Curious re: discussions around matchday revenue.

[bobbydazzla]

Pretty sure someone on here was saying recently that they’re on a price freeze deal that means their adult season ticket is currently £250. Which is wild 

[bigfella]

5 hours ago, ennyoueffsea said:

 

Just seen this in the latest edition of Groundtastic. Nee mention of the terrace with St James Street though.

 

What a load of cobblers.

IF moving Leazes Terrace brick by brick WAS feasible (and I'm inclined to agree with @TheBrownBottle that it isn't and wouldn't be allowed anyway), then the potential  increase would be way over 13,000 additional seats.

More like potentially a 75,000 capacity.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by bigfella

[Guest]

14 hours ago, bigfella said:

 

What a load of cobblers.

IF moving Leazes Terrace brick by brick WAS feasible (and I'm inclined to agree with @TheBrownBottle that it isn't and wouldn't be allowed anyway), then the potential  increase would be way over 13,000 additional seats.

More like potentially a 75,000 capacity.

 

 

 

That's what I was thinking, if the stand mirrored the Millburn with no dugout, press box and heavy corporate, you'd be talking a monumental increase in capacity

 

This brick by brick shite is bollocks, the only option would be demolition and that's not going to happen 

[OpenC]

I've just got onto a bus at Haymarket for the first time in about 30 years. Hearing Local Hero and the roar at the end of it is enough to make me think they really can't move more than 250 metres or so  arena site is city centre the same way Sunderland's stadium is. Can hear the crowd through noise cancelling headphones from here.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 13, 2024 by OpenC

[Whitley mag]

Interesting video on Buffalo’s new stadium and what’s gone into it. Think Populous who the club are using are involved and they’ve taken quite a bit from Spuds new stadium when designing it.

 

Also being built right next to their current stadium, it’s all about the fan experience and sight lines in new stadium.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJxJdICI1I

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Interesting video on Buffalo’s new stadium and what’s gone into it. Think Populous who the club are using are involved and they’ve taken quite a bit from Spuds new stadium when designing it.

 

Also being built right next to their current stadium, it’s all about the fan experience and sight lines in new stadium.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJxJdICI1I

Rather enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing. 
 

Makes me want a mega new build on the Leazes even more.