Tachikoma Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I think I can name a few games in the last two seasons that would have been improved by a punch-up between our own players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Lee Ryder obviously watched the Fantasy football show last Friday as his article is basically a re-hash of what Dyer was saying on the show. More lazy jounalism or just a slow news day in Thomson house?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That whole show was interesting. Dyer did his 1 to 11. Zero mention of Speed and he went out of his way to exclude Shearer. In general talk, he gave Shearer some props and seemed to try and be fair to him but you could tell they didn't like each other. Interestingly he had Given, Woodgate, Bellamy & Solano in his 1 to 11. The last two ahead of Beckham & Rooney. The silence when he named Solano ahead of Beckham was pretty funny but very honest. He said they had a tremendous understanding. Nobby had pretty much everything Dyer didn't - and vice versa and it worked beautifully. He also said Bellamy was his best mate in football but credited him correctly as the most important player at the club. If you didn't know already you could tell there were big divisions in the camp. He said almost the exact same thing as Craig Bellamy about SBR's man-management. I've heard them both say SBR would take them to the side pre-match, pump them up to feel like they where the greatest, strongest, quickest players in the world and it reflected in the side. At our best under SBR we were confident, strong, everyone looked like world-beaters. We haven't had that since. He also said Graeme Souness gave him the best advice regarding his career which sparked in his own words - the best form of his career. It's available on demand on Sky without ads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 To be fair, these 1 to 11 things would be very boring if players just picked the players with the best ability. It's a bit more interesting when they talk about their own personal relationships with players, how they complimented each other within the team/dressing room etc, and why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Dyer would do wonders in a team like ours. Behind Obertan though obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Nobby was a better footballer than beckham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Nobby was a better footballer than beckham. Could strike a ball better too imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Nobby better than Beckham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That Villa game was the first one i went over to see My second one was our win against Sunderland when Emre curled in a beautiful freekick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 http://thepowerofgoals.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/ranking-free-kick-experts-pitfalls.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Nobby would wash the floor with Beckham, tbh. There were a couple of seasons where he led the league or was just behind "Becks" in top assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'm biased as he's possibly my favourite NUFC player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Solano better than Beckham? That's interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Solano better than Beckham? That's interesting. Not for long it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Far more technical football than Beckam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Far more technical football than Beckam. Nobody would deny that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Solano better than Beckham? That's interesting. A lot of Black and White glasses on here, Solano was a great player for us but no one outside of Newcastle would put him ahead of Beckham (even though Beckham was not as good a footballer as his hype would led you to believe). As to your avatar, no I hate the arrogant son of a bitch, loved watching my dolphins beat his crybaby ass first game of the season !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham was a much better crosser, and shooter from freekicks. Nobby probably had better general technique and definitely a better brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham is a perfect candidate for the "How much do you rate" thread, actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham's positioning was massively under-rated. Considering he was the best crosser of a ball in the world for nigh on 10 years, it was ridiculous how often he found loads of space to put in a cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham's positioning was massively under-rated. Considering he was the best crosser of a ball in the world for nigh on 10 years, it was ridiculous how often he found loads of space to put in a cross. This was Beckham's biggest strength. The ability to put top quality crosses in without beating an opponent. He didn't really have the tools to beat opponents neither with pace nor trickery, yet he didn't need to. Beckham's work rate was his other great asset. He never stopped working. I'm not a Beckham fan but in my opinion, he was a class above Nobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Nobby was always one of my favourite players, but I've always been a huge Beckham fanboy like. He was an absolutely superb player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 To be fair, these 1 to 11 things would be very boring if players just picked the players with the best ability. It's a bit more interesting when they talk about their own personal relationships with players, how they complimented each other within the team/dressing room etc, and why. I watch that segment a fair bit and it's crap when they mostly choose international team mates they barely played with. Nobby over Beckham was a great choice as they actually spent maybe 5 years together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He included Rooney on the bench, how often did they even play together? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham's positioning was massively under-rated. Considering he was the best crosser of a ball in the world for nigh on 10 years, it was ridiculous how often he found loads of space to put in a cross. More to do with the quality of the cross. He didn't need to be in a traditionally dangerous position. With the likes of Yorke & Scholes central you needed a compact team to defend properly and he'd stick wide as anything. Didn't need an angle or more than a single touch. I think those 1 to 11's should be more about who you worked best with, than the best you've played alongside for a handful of games. Nobby's a better choice just because they played so much together. Of course Beckham was better. But Nobby was superb and had a lovely range of passing and creativity. Probably had the best eye for a pass i've seen at SJP. He must have put Dyer, Bellamy, Robert & Shearer through on goal hundreds of times. You can see the great understanding he had with Dyer in that Dyer compilation on Youtube. Nobby seemingly assisted Dyer in half those goals. For a lad with no engine, zero pace, little trickery - Solano was amazing. Had he been a real athlete he would've been world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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