Interpolic Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 IMO we're dreaming if we think we're going to get a lot more than that for him at this stage. We all know he's worth more than that but even the big clubs will hang around for a bit if they can get a £10m+ player for nowt in a year's time and they have enough in the squad to tide things over. If we can get around £7m for him in the end then we've done quite well imo. Do you think we can buy another left back as good as Enrique for 7m before the transfer window closes ? Who's even to say that Ashley will reinvest the 7m in another left back like the 35m that has been reinvested in playing staff... I don't think we can buy a player as good for that price, no. I know he's not Mr Popular around here but Liverpool were forced to sell Michael Owen to Real Madrid for £8m all those years ago, which was half of his market value as was proven 12 months later. That's just one example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Nzogbia to villa? If they want him they should be paying a darn sight more than 5m. Rather see him stay until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Nzogbia to villa? If they want him they should be paying a darn sight more than 5m. Rather see him stay until the end of the season. same, if his heads right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 We paid well over the odds for Owen. No other club was stupid enough to offer anything like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 We paid well over the odds for Owen. No other club was stupid enough to offer anything like it. He was worth a lot more than £8m when Liverpool sold him though, much of the reason £17m was such a rip off when we bought him was that he'd shown himself to be only worthy of a place on the a bench for much of the time at a top, top side. My point was that you can knock a good few million off someone's price if they're 12 months from the end of their contract and I'd be surprised if you disagreed with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Exactly, that's why Enrique is a steal at 10m! I'd think your right with around 7.5m though hopefully with a bunch of add ons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 :suicide: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 We paid well over the odds for Owen. No other club was stupid enough to offer anything like it. He was worth a lot more than £8m when Liverpool sold him though, much of the reason £17m was such a rip off when we bought him was that he'd shown himself to be only worthy of a place on the a bench for much of the time at a top, top side. My point was that you can knock a good few million off someone's price if they're 12 months from the end of their contract and I'd be surprised if you disagreed with that. agreed, leaving liverpool 8m was considered a steal, leaving real 16m was considered over the odds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. i disagree. the higher the fee, the more money ashley will have recouped, and hopefully the faster the knacker will sell up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It will be utter bullshit AGAIN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3222/unledhjc.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. Nurse! NURSE!! The anti-psychotics please.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hope this isn't going to be a 'he left on the last day and we didn't have time to replace him' stunt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. In some cases they've done really well. Enrique's contract situation is the decisive thing here though. He won't let him go for nothing next summer and will take whatever is offered for him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Who cares about the fee.. Whatever someone is willing to pay for Enrique is not going to be spent to improve the squad anyway so would rather keep him for this season and let him leave on a free when his contract runs out. Get a grip man..Of course he'll improve the squad..He's amply proven that already. That's why we need the money for Enrique, so we're able to buy a PROPER replacement. Besides, if he wants to sell the club, he'll get much more for it if the squad is full of prospects and is fighting in the upper tier of the table. From this perspective, he got every incentive to plow the money he earns from player sales back into the team. http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3222/unledhjc.png So a French international in Cabaye isn't a reinforcement? He's cheaper and better than Nolan..BA is better than Shola, and his stats are impressive. .MA managed to haggle over Nolan, Carroll and Routledge's fees.We got more than they're worth imo. You're so fucking negative that you refuse to see the positive aspects that actually are happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. In some cases they've done really well. Enrique's contract situation is the decisive thing here though. He won't let him go for nothing next summer and will take whatever is offered for him imo. No doubt he'll be off. Pardew keeps talking about a plan in place if he leaves. Have to assume he has someone lined up, so if it doesnt happen he will be slaughtered. However, i dont think he'd keep reiterating it if he wasnt confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. In some cases they've done really well. Enrique's contract situation is the decisive thing here though. He won't let him go for nothing next summer and will take whatever is offered for him imo. No doubt he'll be off. Pardew keeps talking about a plan in place if he leaves. Have to assume he has someone lined up, so if it doesnt happen he will be slaughtered. However, i dont think he'd keep reiterating it if he wasnt confident. That's where we disagree. I think his 'replacement' is already here - Ferguson. No need to spend cash and it gives one of the young lads a chance which fans approve of. Doesn't always work out but the fans will swallow it until Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. In some cases they've done really well. Enrique's contract situation is the decisive thing here though. He won't let him go for nothing next summer and will take whatever is offered for him imo. No doubt he'll be off. Pardew keeps talking about a plan in place if he leaves. Have to assume he has someone lined up, so if it doesnt happen he will be slaughtered. However, i dont think he'd keep reiterating it if he wasnt confident. That's where we disagree. I think his 'replacement' is already here - Ferguson. No need to spend cash and it gives one of the young lads a chance which fans approve of. Doesn't always work out but the fans will swallow it until Jan. Totally agree with you. Especially as we've now signed another winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. In some cases they've done really well. Enrique's contract situation is the decisive thing here though. He won't let him go for nothing next summer and will take whatever is offered for him imo. No doubt he'll be off. Pardew keeps talking about a plan in place if he leaves. Have to assume he has someone lined up, so if it doesnt happen he will be slaughtered. However, i dont think he'd keep reiterating it if he wasnt confident. That's where we disagree. I think his 'replacement' is already here - Ferguson. No need to spend cash and it gives one of the young lads a chance which fans approve of. Doesn't always work out but the fans will swallow it until Jan. Predicted this weeks ago and it's no surprise that it looks like that's how it will pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I would hope that once a fee is close to being agreed we have a bid accepted for his replacement. This would show foresight, planning and if the replacement is a good replacement, an ounce of ambition. However................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The notion of Ashley haggling over his fee is laughable. We'll accept a derisory offer of about 5 or 6 million, send him on his way and replace him on the cheap IF we're lucky. More likely is to stick young Ferguson back in there and keep the cash in the bank. We know how he works. Ashley's regime has generally been pretty good at getting decent fee's to be fair. In some cases they've done really well. Enrique's contract situation is the decisive thing here though. He won't let him go for nothing next summer and will take whatever is offered for him imo. No doubt he'll be off. Pardew keeps talking about a plan in place if he leaves. Have to assume he has someone lined up, so if it doesnt happen he will be slaughtered. However, i dont think he'd keep reiterating it if he wasnt confident. That's where we disagree. I think his 'replacement' is already here - Ferguson. No need to spend cash and it gives one of the young lads a chance which fans approve of. Doesn't always work out but the fans will swallow it until Jan. I really dont think so. Pardew was reluctant to even give games to Fergie up until the end of the season. Cant see him being happy going into a new season with an untested youngster. Especially with no back up. Im fairly confident we'll bring someone in and Fergie will be back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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