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why? is this really a thing? badge is fine,doesn't need changing.

Can't believe he wasn't at least brought on, as with Coventry relying on their whole game being putting crosses into the box, then surely he was the best option to at least put a challenge onto Ballard who was easily winning everything (apart from their actual goal). Their manager (who has done a decent job considering they finished 16th last season), did his homework in knowing that Coventry would be playing their full game based on delivery into the box, and he selects Ballard to take care of this and as I mentioned above, apart from one occasion he had a field day. The mackems are claiming a masterclass (even though they have been asking for the manager's head in large volumes recently). It wasn't. Sunderland had one really good move for the first goal when they opened up Coventry, and even then the goalkeeper should have saved it. Their second goal was purely down to an awful back pass from the defender.

The fact he says his dog is part of his family says everything to me. Top lad.

I’ve always liked the European-style circle badges - though I’d rather see a hippocampus in there than a magpie

Literally no one could've seen this coming.

You don't say that about any dog, Gideon pal. Ever.

Fulham 2-1 Everton Ipswich 1-2 Brentford Southampton 0-3 Man City Wolves 1-1 Brighton Bournemouth 2-2 Villa Newcastle 2-1 Chelsea Man United 2-0 West Ham Forest 2-0 Leicester Spurs 1-1 Palace Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal

Yeah they will be bending over quite often getting rammed next season if they do get promoted. Obviously I've mentioned I hope for them to stay down for years and years to come. Certainly don't want them getting promoted and then relegated as they will then get the parachute payments (Short took all their last one to cover their sale to the broke twins as they didn't have the funds), which will probably result in them being an another yo yo club. Failure to go up will see them lose a few players (nowhere near the prices they think they will get) and I think they would struggle next year as a result. I can see Sheff United beating either of the two teams tonight and Coventry have to come out on Tuesday also. The standard though is just so bad in that division.

I think the footage from the training ground is pre cup final no? Sandro is wrapped up in a snood etc so presumably it was sometime in winter.

Left hand drive. Brought his car over from Italy I guess.

In his recent interview he said he was very happy here, but I did find it a bit of a statement that he mentioned about any possible deal being good for the club. I'm still convinced that the club were expecting Bruno's release clause to be activated last summer and when it was not, that is when we saw the panic moves started to happen. For him he is quite happy to stay and is not looking to move. The club though may well decide different if the they receive a big offer nd by what he said in his interview, Bruno accepts this outcome if it does venture forward. That's why getting champions league is key to the strategy of the transfer windows. I'm not saying he will leave, just a few thoughts on what may happen.

Been a while since I saw those lads play.

We could just copy the Collingwood crest. Same formation year too.

The current one is too detailed to work well in multiple mediums. I think they've said as much, it just doesn't translate as well as it needs to.

Not a fan at all of the 70s magpie badge. The seahorse has a connection the the city beyond the club, the history of the area. We’re just associated with magpies because they’re the same colour as our shirt.

They did that already - that’s why we have the 1988 facsimile of the city coat of arms instead of the coat of arms There are PL players playing who are older than the current club crest. There’s sod all tradition attached to it

Just no.

Minging dog, though.

Brilliant video and his English is excellent. Comes across as totally levelled headed, happy in his life and you can tell the support he has received from the management, players and support has totally been of the greatest life changing event for him in a time when his his mental health would have been seriously effected. He even mentions about no other clubs go on like this (obviously highlighting Italian clubs). He's getting married in July so his personal life is good and that comes across again massively in the interview. I may be wrong, but I'm sure during his ban it was reported that he also had some issues in his relationship, so seeing the two (three with the dog) totally content was great to see also. Great to see a person come through a bad and potentially dangerous period (yes it was his own fault). We now have a player happy in his life, totally supported and as a result producing performances of an exceptional standard. Frightening thing is that he is still only 24 and his game will continue to develop. As mentioned above, the media stuff coming out daily is of an excellent standard, with frequent items and of a high standard. Players, you can tell enjoy being involved and it's like a different world compared to four years ago. Would still like to see more coming out from the owners, but that is not down to the media.

Will this be put to a vote in Stack?

You've got to have a new crest, otherwise how else do you muscle in on the retro shirt market more than you already do

same vibe as:

New crest unveiling

I'm not too fussed as long as it's decent. I've been around through the last four badges, so the change probably doesn't affect me as much as someone who is younger and has only known the current badge. This is no more than a tick mark exercise (imo), as the design will already be in draft I'm convinced. There maybe a couple of options to make it look more like a fan selection. I do think the timing stinks though, as it's not going to be on next season's kit, so why not wait until the season ends. Just causes a disruption amongst the fans before three massive games.

I presume they can't compete with the sky times. 1230 would have meant the game would have still been playing when the Forest game kicked off.