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Have the people on here who fancy them to stay up really factored in that they were fourth in a very poor league last season, 24 points off automatic promotion, looked very unconvincing in the play off games and had the fans shouting for the manager's head even after they'd reached the playoffs ? Additionally they've lost one of their most important (albeit very limited) players and the only one I saw who looked like he truly had PL potential (Watson). Similar levels of optimism applied to ourselves will have us nailed on to win the Champions League.

Demand from others does drive the price up though. This one in particular is Chelsea moving mad.

My prediction/conspiracy theory is that there will be a Saudi led European Super League within 5 years and these clubs are already in bed with them. That’s a realistic goal for them and it’s far bigger than Newcastle. As far as Newcastle is concerned, the club was sold to them by Staveley and I think everything needs to be pushed forward by a non-PIF person. They’re there to invest if someone sells it to them, but otherwise we’ll be a forgotten relatively minor investment.

My only issue is, surely the club should have known exactly what to expect regarding prices, wages etc. We have had 18 months to get ready for this window. Being quoted massive fees should not come as a surprise.

I’m not negative about it. But we are likely looking at losing out on 4 of our main targets by the start of July. That is pretty shitty.

Aye this. Was always a great move for him. At 35m it looked a good deal for us at first. A £10m overpay at the low end. Then at £15m when you consider Vlad it was a great coup for them at the time. But now it’s a complete steal.

Not overly concerned with this transfer. Zenden chose Chelsea. Jeffers chose Arsenal. We got Robert and Bellamy instead. Brill.

There's been reports they have.

In recent transfer windows, as we sit and watch the likes of Chelsea and Man United spend money unchecked as though they operate outside of the restraints we're chained by, the frustration bordering on apathy turns to pure admiration for Eddie and what he's been able to achieve. He really is the king. Chelsea can take Pedro, Man United can take Mbeumo, neither of them have a manager who is anywhere near the level of Eddie Howe, nor will they get one any time soon.

Chelsea haven't even bid for him have they?

Not sure this logic works - Bruno, Isak and Botman are all of a calibre that would improve us if they were signed today, certainly relative to the likes of Pedro and Elanga.

With Twitter, but not the overall decline in journalistic standards imo.

Absolutely, I can’t thank them enough for reviving our zombie club of the Ashley days. But it still grinds gears them constantly bailing out and semi funding our rivals. Look at the Duran thing FFS, plus Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea. Their strategy is “World Cup 2034”, but how they get there is a right inconsistent mess.

Said similar in another thread, but... ...while I completely understand the appeal of Premier League proven players, we're trying to drive a hard bargain in a market where the fees and wages on offer are inflated. Our talent ID is spot on. Our best work in the transfer market has come from "buying the dip" abroad and/or picking up young, unproven players with high ceilings. I appreciate we're trying to move up the ladder and buy a more complete, finished article, but given how restricted we are under PSR we may need to reconsider until the commercial revenue and academy are in a place to ease that burden.

it's a good point like, if they can spend a billion on this shite just think what they could do for NUFC with less constraints. It's genuinely mind boggling that there hasn't been a proper legal challenge in the form of players kicking off about either being "forced" to move clubs or not being able to do so (as was pointed out on here yesterday by someone) due to lack of PSR headroom.

I edited my post 👍🏻 In a dumb way, pif are helping Chelsea and City with spending, but they won't mind as its good for them, but shit for their asset Newcastle.

In all seriousness I'm still happy to be rid of Mike Ashley and see us competing in the CL. Until that feeling dissipates then I'm happy just to see us improve year on year. I'm just glad the mix of agendas all seemingly have the same end goal for NUFC.

I mean the problem is PSR, nothing else. PIF will spend money on NUFC if they are allowed to. Or at least we can only really find out if PSR is got rid of.

Well sign Trafford, a CB and two players further forward in this window. Im not so fussed on time, although early will be better. Im not too fussed on price because its clear the club have learned their lesson on the future PSR consequences. As for the quality, well, we have to wait.

Like all things Saudi it’s an incoherent mix of agendas and sub-plots, overreach and then row back.

With Delap I understood why he would go to Chelsea, but for Pedro it is a braindead move, he would literally just be a utility player. It stinks of the likes of Kepa moving to be a backup in his prime years.

PIF are definitely playing the long game, if they're playing a game at all.

Not sure what you mean, They don't own any of those clubs representing, money gained from that tournament isn’t counted towards the clubs psr (City/Chelsea) who are competing either, as far as I know, it's just a nice extra income to use on transfers now for those that get in.

How come there isn't a PSR stopping PIF spending money on the FCWC then?

Which was funded by DAZN to the tune of $1bn. And who gave DAZN the money, simultaneously bailing them and FIFA out in the process? The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.