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I totally agree tbh. Kane knew he'd been caught and milked it so they had a chance to look at it a few times, he knows exactly what he's doing, he knows how this shit works. This seems to be the game now unfortunately

I agree on the whole, it was harsh and I'm not suggesting it was a nailed on penalty. But I can see why they've looked at it and given it after a few looks. It's not a slam dunk, Dumfries definitely caught him with the challenge after the shot and in other areas that's a foul 100% of the time. Them's the breaks

Good point, not sure of the answer tbh. Maybe the fact he stayed down so long that the officials thought he was genuinely hurt came into the equation. Maybe they looked at it enough times to convince themselves that they had to give something ? I'm not saying they definitely got it right either but I can see why they gave it, there's logic behind it. It's definitely harsh but if you'd give it in the centre circle or by the corner flag then you should give it in the box too

How many times have we all seen a defender, normally at full back, clearing a ball and the onrushing attacker sticks out a foot to try and block it and the full back clears it and follows through to connect with the attackers foot. Ref gives a foul every time and no-one blinks an eye. It's not deliberate but the contact after the kick is enough for a foul. It's staggeringly similar to what happened in the box but it was a shot not a clearance. It's harsh because it has resulted in a goal rather than a free-kick near the touchline but I can see why they've given it. It's disproportionate in the fact it's lead to a goal but recreate that in other areas of the pitch and a foul gets given 99 times out of 100.

Got the goals at pretty much perfect times tonight, equalised quickly and left it late to kill them off. Superb finish from Watkins but the game was getting a little stretched and that extra bit of pace and quality won it for us. Thought we were the better team for most of the game, they had flashes and breaks here and there but I thought we looked in control for the most part. We've been dreadful for most of the tournament but we find ourselves in the Final and we're the underdog now, nothing to lose and every person expects Spain to win it. It's just a game of football and they'll be beatable on the day itself, they've got weaknesses but this England team have shifted through a couple of gears in the last couple of games, it's been brutal to watch but there were signs of it clicking tonight. We've got a puncher's chance on Sunday

Game is there for the taking tbh, Holland don't look great and we've caused them problems. Foden could easily have had at least one and there's finally a bit of spark in the team. Need to stay aggressive and play like we're losing, hate this passive shit, just be positive and it's 100% there for England

The only surprise will be finding out exactly how they'll get away with it. To even allow yourself to think that they'll get a deduction is laughable, just like Chelsea

Not when he's only got a year left before he's worth zero. Not against signing him, he's proven to be pretty efficient under a manager who is competent and has played really well in the past but £30m is way, way too high at this point. Drive the price down to about 15 and it becomes a decent deal

Can the pair of you take this shit to pm's please?

And I thought I was overly harsh on him... Man alive

Yep, for all concerned tbh

I get the impression Southgate is a bloke who wanders into a forest with a penknife and comes out 6 days later boasting about how he's managed to cut 2 small trees down. "LOOK!! It works - told you I'd do it!"

Let's offer £100k for each of them

Apologies

Exactly. Highly likely they're jetting in for a couple of hours at Mr Mulligan's space golf and an intimate gig at the Cluny. Keeping their options open for the Sunday

To be fair when Nunez go the winner for Liverpool last season I (repeatedly) kicked the setee about 4 ft across the front room and was hobbling until February. Accidents happen

It's becoming increasingly obvious that in order to catch up to the numbers game that's going on that we need/must to do a few things in order to bridge the gap. 3 big moves imo: Sponsor everything - the training kit, the training ground, as much as possible. Get as much into the club as possible. Don't care how daft we go - sponsor the fucking frying pans if necessary, max that shit out. New stadium - this one is the major kick in the bollocks. Most fans are attached to SJP but it's just not going to be possible to catch up AND stay at SJP. I love the bones of the place but it's an old-school football ground built to host football matches. The other 340 days of the year where there isn't a football game on it's just sitting there hosting the odd tour or the odd function or whatever. Selling big players - We've got some absolute gems in the squad. Isak, Bruno, Gordon followed closely by Botman, Barnes, Tonali, Joelinton, Willock, Tino & Hall but after that there's little else of real value. We will need to sell a few of that lot in the very near future in order to be able to spend more and add to that list. It's a gradual process but we'll need to bite the bullet eventually. Invest well, buy young, pack out the academy and develop them and add to that pool is going to take a decade tbh

"Getting good money for minimal end product is TIGHT!!"

Forest overpaid by at least 10m for Anderson. The first 10m of his fee is already covered tbh. He costs 12? That's basically 2 and it's got us out of a PSR hole. My guess is that he ends up play no more than 4 games (Pope staying fit allowing) and we move him on next year to some other schmucks for whatever. It's absolutely not a big deal either way

Ridiculous goalkeeping, saving the first 3/3 is probably unheard of at this level, fair play

Couldn't wish for a better keeper in a shootout than Oblak. Fancy them to boot these fuckers out

It's definitely possible like I just hat if we've caved it's for a really low sum, and if we only needed a really low sum then we could have got a little extra from Forest and/or Brighton. We may never find the actual facts out tbh

Occam's razor for me. Most likely events, pure speculation obviously: We ask for 20m knowing there's a bit of a financial PSR black hole and hope Man U cave Man U also in a bit of a PSR hole We dig our heels in and it's a stalemate. Man U dig their heels in and whinge publically We raise the money we need on Sunday Happy new PSR year Man U can start to negotiate We can start to negotiate as we're not desperate for the money Both sides compromise and agree on something about 10-12 Both sides agree to keep schtum as neither side want to lose face