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NNNGGGHHH!! Good old Skillban.

If they want to have a dig at Ashley, have a dig at Ashley. Don't bring someone in who had the thankless task of keeping much of a Premiership squad together and happy in the face of a good deal of criticism and uncertainty. Hughton for me deserves a fair bit of praise for his atitude and application in his time here, and has, as far as I've seen, tried to keep well away from the politicking. That is an utterly cuntish cover from True Faith. /who have a tendancy to wallow way too much in their own spite and misery when they feel hard done by these days (whether under this regime, or the last days of F.Shepherd). It's a bit disrespectful to Hughton who, to his credit, has got his head down and battled on doing the job he's been asked to do. I don't think he's a manager and I wasn't impressed (or surprised) with the appointment but he's got us to the top of the league and we all hope we stay there. It's only a fanzine cover at the end of the day though.

Only just realised it's half time.

I think it's more a dig at Ashley tbh. Not a particularly big deal either way.

I think he's fucking great. Clever, quick and knows where the goals are. He won't retire and if he applies himself he could be as good as he wants to be. Probably shouldn't have signed for City but I can understand why he did.

Why? The best teams in Scotland are very poor. What's the justification for letting even worse teams in?

True. But imho they'd piss the CCC...would be as easy for them as it's been for us (so far). I'd go along with that. Can't think of a single player in the SPL who would start for a top 4 team down here though.

If they were parachuted into the Premier League they would both struggle to stay up imo. They're both obviously massive clubs with the fan-base to compete after a few years but they're both pretty poor at this moment in time.

Having to see the likes of Hull, Burnley and Wigan get to play some of the best teams on the continent. It vexes me.

Aye, it's nice to see different countries from different parts of the world compete. Part of what makes the World Cup so special. Looking forward to this one quite a bit actually.

Shush, he thinks I'm a genius.

could be difficult organising the voting rights with that one. I dont follow...seperate forum for each share obviously... i understand that, but it sounds complicated to administer. I think it's pretty easy actually. Just a case of ticking the right boxes on the permissions jobbie. ok i was thinking of the headache admin would have, forgot they had a numbers genius. Nah, just call each board Share 1, Share 2 etc and give each member of each share permission to post and vote in it.

could be difficult organising the voting rights with that one. I dont follow...seperate forum for each share obviously... i understand that, but it sounds complicated to administer. I think it's pretty easy actually. Just a case of ticking the right boxes on the permissions jobbie.

I'd try to get more kids going to games. Whether through cheaper tickets or any other incentives. Seems bonkers that there are roughly 9000 empty seats for every home game when we could fill some of them with kids paying a tenner a pop to see the match.

Roy Keane.

First off, I've not got a spare £2500 (or anywhere near it tbh) to invest so I'm ruled out straight away. Secondly, it sounds like an excellent idea in theory. I've got some doubts as to whether or not enough cash can be raised to take over and keep things ticking along until the club begins to generate enough money to run itself properly though. The other query (my apologies if it's already been answered elsewhere) is that I can't really see the incentive to more affluent people investing more money if they still only get one vote. I've read that the 'one share=one vote' thing is fundamental to it going ahead but why should a rich bloke put in, say, £50k if it only gets him the same voting power as someone who only chips in £2500? I'm not trying to be negative and I hope things take off but I've got my doubts as to whether it'll actually come off. Credit to them for getting off their arses and attempting to do something positive to force some change.

Bit of a pisser for the lad. Very talented but always seemed to be either coming back from injury or was out with one.

1 win in 9 now.

How is he not worth £4m? What does that sort of money buy you when it comes to strikers anyhow? I would think mediocre teams that can't play football would pay that much just for his nuisance value. He might not be the most polished striker but he's big, strong and gives defenders a hard time. He scores the odd goal as well which isn't the worst quality in the world. Agree with all of that, provided he's playing at this level. If we go up and he plays regularly I don't think he'd be anywhere near as effective against PL defenders. How many PL strikers can you buy for £4m? Very few? That's my argument. I honestly don't think he's good enough for the PL so I don't think he's worth the £4m that's being bandied about for him. When you have teams likeBolton, Portsmouth, Stoke, Wolves, Burnley and West Ham in the Premiership I don't think you can claim they are too good to pay £4m for a big target man. I don't think they'd pay £4m for him because they already have better forwards than Carroll already on their books imo. Going round in circles here tbh. Like who? Elmander, Dindane, Beattie, Doyle, Nugent and Carlton Cole off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more too. Anyway, off to bed. Just for the record I'd keep him til we get promoted but he's not good enough for the PL. He might be in the future but I, personally, don't think he will be. We'll have to see I suppose.

How is he not worth £4m? What does that sort of money buy you when it comes to strikers anyhow? I would think mediocre teams that can't play football would pay that much just for his nuisance value. He might not be the most polished striker but he's big, strong and gives defenders a hard time. He scores the odd goal as well which isn't the worst quality in the world. Agree with all of that, provided he's playing at this level. If we go up and he plays regularly I don't think he'd be anywhere near as effective against PL defenders. How many PL strikers can you buy for £4m? Very few? That's my argument. I honestly don't think he's good enough for the PL so I don't think he's worth the £4m that's being bandied about for him. When you have teams likeBolton, Portsmouth, Stoke, Wolves, Burnley and West Ham in the Premiership I don't think you can claim they are too good to pay £4m for a big target man. I don't think they'd pay £4m for him because they already have better forwards than Carroll already on their books imo. Going round in circles here tbh.

How is he not worth £4m? What does that sort of money buy you when it comes to strikers anyhow? I would think mediocre teams that can't play football would pay that much just for his nuisance value. He might not be the most polished striker but he's big, strong and gives defenders a hard time. He scores the odd goal as well which isn't the worst quality in the world. Agree with all of that, provided he's playing at this level. If we go up and he plays regularly I don't think he'd be anywhere near as effective against PL defenders. How many PL strikers can you buy for £4m? Very few? That's my argument. I honestly don't think he's good enough for the PL so I don't think he's worth the £4m that's being bandied about for him.

How is he not worth £4m? What does that sort of money buy you when it comes to strikers anyhow? I would think mediocre teams that can't play football would pay that much just for his nuisance value. He might not be the most polished striker but he's big, strong and gives defenders a hard time. He scores the odd goal as well which isn't the worst quality in the world. Agree with all of that, provided he's playing at this level. If we go up and he plays regularly I don't think he'd be anywhere near as effective against PL defenders.

If he adapts his game he could be a Crouch esq striker. He's quite tall. Comparison ends. His hold up play is decent as is Crouch's. Disagree. Can't fault his effort and enthusiasm but he's nowhere near the level of Crouch. And I genuinely don't think he ever will be unfortunately. We will agree to disagree then. Do you think he'll score regularly for England like Crouch has btw? If he's allowed to play against the same s*** teams then yes. I don't think Capello will allow him to play tbh. He's clearly being overlooked because he's playing in the CCC. It's a fix. Have you seen the teams Crouch has scored against? Carroll is 20 and has his whole career ahead of him, how you can say he won't make it this quick is quite baffling. I'm not saying he can't, I'm saying I don't think he'll ever come close to being as good as Crouch. I don't think he'll ever play for Liverpool. I don't think he'll ever get in the England squad, let alone play and score for them. I don't think anyone will ever pay £8m or £9m for him. He might........but I wouldn't put too much money on it.

If he adapts his game he could be a Crouch esq striker. He's quite tall. Comparison ends. His hold up play is decent as is Crouch's. Disagree. Can't fault his effort and enthusiasm but he's nowhere near the level of Crouch. And I genuinely don't think he ever will be unfortunately. We will agree to disagree then. Do you think he'll score regularly for England like Crouch has btw? If he's allowed to play against the same shit teams then yes. I don't think Capello will allow him to play tbh. He's clearly being overlooked because he's playing in the CCC. It's a fix.

If he adapts his game he could be a Crouch esq striker. He's quite tall. Comparison ends. His hold up play is decent as is Crouch's. Disagree. Can't fault his effort and enthusiasm but he's nowhere near the level of Crouch. And I genuinely don't think he ever will be unfortunately. We will agree to disagree then. Fair enough. Do you think he'll score regularly for England like Crouch has btw?