BottledDog

Why don't you offer to get involved at the top level? Seriously. They'd be over the moon to have any assistance people can give. Why would he want to do that when he can just sit and hide behind a computer and jump on any mistake and have a go! Which applies to quite a few on here. Why let him sit behind a computer and jump on any mistake and have a go? Pop round his gaff and join him for a bit. He might not agree with you initially but keep hassling and he might be receptive to any encouragement you can give to make him change his life around.

So he is hopefully heading again then. Glad that's sorted.

(2) would win by a country mile. On the whole the NUST have been organised, earnest and effective. This is clearly a mis-step but it's a long term, well backed campaign amongst fans and the media. Such clangers hurt them all the more having built up the level of momentum they have exactly because they're a far more well publicised and organised group than whoever knocked up the pamphlet on powerpoint that no-one outside of a couple of message boards has any clue about. The latest in a long line to be fair. And still they keep going. Like the previous mistakes, I'm sure this one will not lose them all credibility as so many seem eager to insist will be the case. Lots of impatient fans who insist on things being perfect immediately will hoy their toys out the pram and denigrate what has been the most succesful enlistment of fans into a single collective voice in my lifetime. But there are too many fans that realise if it falls apart it's a wasted opportunity that nobody else will feel compelled to try again because there are too many naysayers. The NUST is what everyone was crying out for for years so they won't call it a day because of one badly worded statement amongst many. See, I always supported the idea of of some seriously improved channels of communication with the club that all supporters can feel part of but. But right from the start this group started out with childish threats and insults, and still can't wipe the chips from their collective shoulders and move on from the playground politics. While I'm still a cynical git, I have been impressed by some of their achievements, and genuinely wanted them to demand credibility (to keep making mistakes like this I can't help feeling (silly I know) reflects not only badly on themselves, but all of us who support the club), which is why shit like this is just so sodding irritating.

(2) would win by a country mile. On the whole the NUST have been organised, earnest and effective. This is clearly a mis-step but it's a long term, well backed campaign amongst fans and the media. Such clangers hurt them all the more having built up the level of momentum they have exactly because they're a far more well publicised and organised group than whoever knocked up the pamphlet on powerpoint that no-one outside of a couple of message boards has any clue about. The latest in a long line to be fair.

But it's not just an email is it? Its on the survey page of their site linked to from .com etc.

I think I'd actually worry far more for the future if this lot ever got their hands on the club. Absolute joke that such a potentially powerful organisation continually make you want to grab them by the sholders and tell them to GROW THE FUCK UP!

Stunned that we don't seem capable even in this league to do it so far, but fingers crossed for Barton. If he can somehow help this team to string 3 or more consecutive passes together consistantly, I'll be over the moon.

The greedy fucker want's Lionel Messi! To be fair though, he's actually quite grounded saying he recognises that we have less money in the championship, but hopes we can replace any players we lose. Interesting that he says it's down to Man U regarding Simpson though. Not wanting to read too much into things, but does that mean we want him to stay and have put in an offer for him?

Its all about perception though isnt it. Flying off to Vegas just doesnt give the impression that they are concentrating on the Transfer Window - whether it be rightly or wrongly. Fans, I think, like to know that their top boys are in their offices working on things. MA & DL seem incapable of avoiding this kind of thing. It's not that they are incapable of avoiding it, it's that we seem to be uniquely obsessed enough with all things negative for the rags to warrent bringing up shit nothing stories like this about us to fret over. It should in my opinion be relegated to the 'media hates us' thread, not get unnecessarily wound up by. I'm shocked it's only the Sunday Sun that's picked up on it because I think it's a fucking disgrace. If we have a major release at work, I tend not to use my annual leave around that time because it's a bit of a busy period and I want to be available and at my best. When did they come back? What were they over there for? Does Lee Charney not do all the spadework on the back of Hughtons reccomendations rather than Lambiarse anyway? But no, despite there being almosty no substance to the story, it's 'a fucking disgrace'? Get away.

Its all about perception though isnt it. Flying off to Vegas just doesnt give the impression that they are concentrating on the Transfer Window - whether it be rightly or wrongly. Fans, I think, like to know that their top boys are in their offices working on things. MA & DL seem incapable of avoiding this kind of thing. It's not that they are incapable of avoiding it, it's that we seem to be uniquely obsessed enough with all things negative for the rags to warrent bringing up shit nothing stories like this about us to fret over. It should in my opinion be relegated to the 'media hates us' thread, not get unnecessarily wound up by.

That. Is. Beautiful.

Finnaly removed? Christ on a bike.

£150m was too much in the PL so no-one met his price. £80m was comically high for the state we were in the summer, so no-one met his price. When he names his price again, is it really any more likely to be met? Will he realise that investors are not queuing up round the corner to buy clubs? A number of major financial institutions will not touch football clubs after what has gone on at Man Utd and Liverpool. As for the concept that a low price would encourage a buyer who couldn't afford to run it- sorry- are we basically demanding that someone who buys the football club has some kind of moral obligation to pump tens of millions of pounds into it? It doesn't matter how much money any buyer has- if they pay what Ashley asks they are either very wealthy (unlikely to happen) or foolhardy. It was overpaying for the club in the first place which has driven Ashley to save face and ask for top-whack prices. I'd rather a businessman paid what it was truly worth- maybe that's the sort of level-headedness needed to run NUFC. the thing is ashley will want as much of the money hes put into the club back as he possibly can so he isnt going to lower the asking price, imo its a case of it will be known the club is for sale at the right price but not a case of desperate searching, he wants to sell but on his terms not anyone elses. He is still more than likely subsidising us, but the club is in a fair state again for any new group to move forward with the right investment. Ashley cannot give us that investment so probably has to go, but I don't see him overcharging, it is not in his interests at all. If nobody is willing to stump up the cash then that says more about the market rather than Ashleys unwillingness to sell.

Facts? How many division 3 players have transfered for six million plus, never mind established players in their late 20s? Genuine question, I have no idea. Fact is though, those two players mentioned were top flight players, QPR were fucked when Les left, and Wright was voted Palaces player of the century.

I mean...he already did. Shut it you Ashleyite! /Was Wise is the reason, for the Krul this season?

The kind of numpty who moans about the former regime being "ousted" when in reality they sold the club to Ashley as quickly as possible, took the money, and ran to the bank, laughing. To be fair Fat Freddie was in hospital when it all went down and by the time he launched his own little salvage mission it was too late. Still hardly ousted by Ashley, was he? If anyone "ousted" Shepherd, it was Sir John Hall. Is this supposed to be news? I haven't moaned about Shepherd being ousted, as you call it. I've been well aware of what happened since it happened and I've already blamed SJH. I'm surprised it took you so long to catch on. Then again, maybe not... Err...yes? SJH sold his shares to Ashley and that kicked off the takeover. What's the news about that, or is this your feeble attempt at trying to make out you weren't in support of it, believing 4th, 3rd and 5th in the PL was rubbish? Whatever must you "think" now... So twisty.

I am going to have to disagree with you on this point. Most players may think they would like to play in a place like SJP in concept, but the reality is much different. I think most professional players are incapable of playing their best at SJP. Most players would like to think they can handle the pressure, but playing at SJP is akin to playing internationally in many countries (including the US) and they just can't handle it. Despite comparisons with the 80s (being louder/better/more aggro) the crowd is a tremendous amount of pressure and many of the players rightly or wrongly even come to resent it. I think this has become even more of a problem as players wages have skyrocketed and their lives are becoming more and more isolated from the supporters and reality. Its not all bad though. Some players do very well in this environment (especially when they become cult favourites like Nobby, Ranger, etc). In Zoggy case I think this was only a small factor though, he didn't get on with many of the players and insitutionally we're a shambles. I don't think the cult thing with Ranger has done him any good at all. Might have given him a boost the first couple of appearances but the tussle at Plymouth may be a symptom of the expectation turning to frustration for both himself and the support if we're not careful tbh.

Get away, there is no way we are getting money for him. Shome mishtake, shurely??

Home as in his parents and extended family down west presumably if his kid's going to be a Geordie.

Article - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6974599.ece Viva La Revolution!

As TheSpence pointed out earlier (clicky), there may not be any actual quote.

Sounds a good plan, maybe even tie Simpson to a permanent contract, and cut costs by moving Geremi on if that's possible. Pulling in one more creative loan would be a bonus, as would being able to do something about Kilgannon fingers crossed. Job done. If they 'generally fuck things up' like they did in the summer, then I'll be pretty happy. It'll hopefully keep us on the right track for promotion, and give us a good financial base to invest in the Premiership next year, whoever the owner is.

Change the sodding title ffs.

Other than failing to sell up to sombody with more money and nous, I don't think Ashley let us down in the summer particularly. He managed to hold onto a far stronger core of players than most were expecting, didn't bow to pressure again by re-hiring Shearer, and has a manager who has with one or two astute loan signings and a good deal of one to one communication, forged a team that despite being just as diverse as ever is clearly more together than they have been in years, something that it would be unfair to put down to winning games alone. I'm not expecting any decent signings in Jan (nobody worth getting excited about is going to move to a club stuck in the championship), but hopefully we can keep the current squad together and some replacement loan signings to top us up and take us over the line. /if we don't escape the ccc then summer really will scare me shitless though.