BottledDog

People should be wary that he has little to no experience of running a Football club. Instead they're banging on about money, at a club the majority of Premiership clubs can't compete with financially. Doesn't make any sense to me. Yup, putting the finances to one side, having a clue makes a hell of a difference. Fingers crossed that Moat has some nouse about him more than anything tbh.

You say we can generate more money than most, but I don't think that will be the case any more if we make it back to the Prem. As it is, much of the money we have generated in the past has been on the back of the brand image created during the Keegan years and to a lesser extent the Robson years, through advertising, TV, and sponsorship deals. We are not that kind of draw any more. Our ticket prices are not in the same league as Southern clubs and as other clubs up their capacities, any advantages we had there will be lost too. Yes, as a city we can draw on more loyal support than most places, but when it comes down to it, will that ofset the fact that we still have to pay so far over the odds to get the best players and managers away from London, Liverpool, or Manchester? To get back up there, to get the manager, to persuade the players, and then to see the big revenue returns through TV coverage and companies clamouring to be associated with us, will at some stage need to see us investing massively to get the ball rolling. It would be a shame if at the end of this proccess, we end up with an owner who isn't capable of doing that. /For the record, I thought Ashley was taking the right route (yeah, yeah, I know), invest in youth, get a good manager and structure in place, build us up to a point we can push on, all the while having the cushion of knowing he could dip into his pockets if we got into trouble. But after his crippling blunders following on from the steady decline of Shepherd, trying to get the club back and competing on a shoestring (with no big pockets to call on if we go into freefall again) just seems like a thankless task, and not what I would hope for from a new owner given the choice.

Yup, that's the first step. I was starving at halftime the other day and still didn't buy a pie, I refuse to hand over any money other than the cost of admission to the ground. On the day this joker finally sells up I'll be buying a new top, I hope many thousands do the same. I've wanted the Third Kit since it came out, but I refuse to buy it while that fat cockney cunt is still here! As you like. You're just making the accounts look less impressive for any potential owner/investor though.

Of course it matters Dave. Yes, all we want to someone to run the club responsibly and build the club up, and that would apply to any future owner, but having a big cash injection in place would make a massive difference to us both in the short term, and in the long term success of our club. Where does the idea that Moat over a Billy big bucks is likely to lead to future stability? Surely, racking up debt (which Moat will presumably have to do) is a hell of a lot less stable than a rich fucker able to write off/cover the losses like Abramovic, the Man City bods or even sodding Ashley. Getting the right manager in and backing him long term is the only thing that brings stability, and that will take heavy investment if we want to break into the European spots again. If Moat doesn't have that, then surely the concerns, considering whoever buys us will likely be with us for a far old time, are very valid indeed.

Get excited! /Don't get excited.

This. However many posts from HTT etc keep the romantic toss rolling, it remains just that. Sentimental bollocks. Saying its 'just sentimental bollocks' is narrow-minded and bollocks itself. It's aaaaaal just bollocks. Putting Keegan and Shearer as the only options is ridiculous. Ok, I'll pick Shearer, for no other reason than I could not understand nor stomach keegan returning. As it is, while few seem to accept it, Hughton and his team is talking sense and picking/subbing for the most part the right players. How bloody disrespectfull is it to even discuss Keegan, Shearer, or any manager, when we should be supporting the guys who are doing what they can to get respect from the players, and the supporters, and get us winning games right now.

What are you, the freaking gestapo? Link the article.

This. However many posts from HTT etc keep the romantic toss rolling, it remains just that. Sentimental bollocks.

That's a staggering statement. It would have found that Keegan was forced out. How can he still be blamed? How does getting compensation prove he did nothing wrong though? Er he would have won his case, that he couldn't do his job as initially agreed upon and that he was forced out they had breached his contract and that he had valid grounds to sue for his treatment. What would he have done wrong? He could have gone in the summer when he was fully aware of the system he was working in, not waited until the day after the transfer window closed to maximise the damage it would cause. He was clearly pissed off when he gave that interview after the Chelsea game at the end of the season - why not go then? He could also not have spent the whole time he was here telling the supporters via the press that he was happy with the situation and that there wasn't a problem. Mind that's not the story he obviously told in his off the record conversations is it? People (myself included) laughed and said all of these journalists were making s*** up, but the truth is he's been dishonest throughout. he stayed untill the day he sent Wise and llambiarse out to sign Schweinsteiger, and they came back with two other muppets instead. Then Camels back was broken by this last straw. Keegan couldnt have known this would happen. He didn't "send them out" because they didn't report to him, he reported to them. Whether that's right or wrong (and it's wrong) that's the way it worked. OK then wrong choice of words. They told keegan they were going to sign him, and Didnt. They lied to Keegan. Would you stay in your job under management like that. Robson was sure he'd get Miguel and ended up with f***ing Carr. If ever there was a reason to walk............. "They lied to Keegan"? Get a grip, every manager has a similar story, things change. Wenger, Ferguson among others said they would have done the same in KK situation. There goes your theory. Milner wanted out. Handed in a transfer request, keegan failed to persuad him to stay, or didn't fancy him more than the money, so he got his wish and left. Amazingly we couldn't persuade Swienstiger to jump on board. Ronaldo? I'm sure old red nose was livid he didn't get at least Messi, christ, the board couldn't even get him Ribéry despite assurances. INSTANT SULK? No, he gets on with it. As for the s*** Wenger has had to put up with... Keegan pushes out his bottom lip far too often. Wenger and Furguson might support their fellow managers but have had to deal with worse themselves, dealt with it, and got into a position that deserves respect if they walked on principle. Keegan on the other hand, has not. Keegan says it's fine, we may not get anyone in this transfer window but the money will be used to add to the squad with quality when we can. Ferguson scouted Valencia for at least a year. Most top clubs have multiple targets. Most top clubs let the manager pick who they sign, who is available for sale. Ferguson and Wenger do get on with it, they are allowed to without hindrance from anyone. Without hindrance? Wenger has alway been forced into sales. Keegan said he was happy with the Milner money whether it was spent that summer or later. Its' not a case of being lied to about Swienstieger. We didnt get him. End of. Keegan may have had other irons in the fire, but it was too late in the day for that window, he changed he tune and buggered off.

That's a staggering statement. It would have found that Keegan was forced out. How can he still be blamed? How does getting compensation prove he did nothing wrong though? Er he would have won his case, that he couldn't do his job as initially agreed upon and that he was forced out they had breached his contract and that he had valid grounds to sue for his treatment. What would he have done wrong? He could have gone in the summer when he was fully aware of the system he was working in, not waited until the day after the transfer window closed to maximise the damage it would cause. He was clearly pissed off when he gave that interview after the Chelsea game at the end of the season - why not go then? He could also not have spent the whole time he was here telling the supporters via the press that he was happy with the situation and that there wasn't a problem. Mind that's not the story he obviously told in his off the record conversations is it? People (myself included) laughed and said all of these journalists were making s*** up, but the truth is he's been dishonest throughout. he stayed untill the day he sent Wise and llambiarse out to sign Schweinsteiger, and they came back with two other muppets instead. Then Camels back was broken by this last straw. Keegan couldnt have known this would happen. He didn't "send them out" because they didn't report to him, he reported to them. Whether that's right or wrong (and it's wrong) that's the way it worked. OK then wrong choice of words. They told keegan they were going to sign him, and Didnt. They lied to Keegan. Would you stay in your job under management like that. Robson was sure he'd get Miguel and ended up with f***ing Carr. If ever there was a reason to walk............. "They lied to Keegan"? Get a grip, every manager has a similar story, things change. Wenger, Ferguson among others said they would have done the same in KK situation. There goes your theory. Milner wanted out. Handed in a transfer request, keegan failed to persuad him to stay, or didn't fancy him more than the money, so he got his wish and left. Amazingly we couldn't persuade Swienstiger to jump on board. Ronaldo? I'm sure old red nose was livid he didn't get at least Messi, christ, the board couldn't even get him Ribéry despite assurances. INSTANT SULK? No, he gets on with it. As for the shit Wenger has had to put up with... Keegan pushes out his bottom lip far too often. Wenger and Furguson might support their fellow managers but have had to deal with worse themselves, dealt with it, and got into a position that deserves respect if they walked on principle. Keegan on the other hand, has not.

That's a staggering statement. It would have found that Keegan was forced out. How can he still be blamed? How does getting compensation prove he did nothing wrong though? Er he would have won his case, that he couldn't do his job as initially agreed upon and that he was forced out they had breached his contract and that he had valid grounds to sue for his treatment. What would he have done wrong? He could have gone in the summer when he was fully aware of the system he was working in, not waited until the day after the transfer window closed to maximise the damage it would cause. He was clearly pissed off when he gave that interview after the Chelsea game at the end of the season - why not go then? He could also not have spent the whole time he was here telling the supporters via the press that he was happy with the situation and that there wasn't a problem. Mind that's not the story he obviously told in his off the record conversations is it? People (myself included) laughed and said all of these journalists were making s*** up, but the truth is he's been dishonest throughout. he stayed untill the day he sent Wise and llambiarse out to sign Schweinsteiger, and they came back with two other muppets instead. Then Camels back was broken by this last straw. Keegan couldnt have known this would happen. He didn't "send them out" because they didn't report to him, he reported to them. Whether that's right or wrong (and it's wrong) that's the way it worked. OK then wrong choice of words. They told keegan they were going to sign him, and Didnt. They lied to Keegan. Would you stay in your job under management like that. Robson was sure he'd get Miguel and ended up with f***ing Carr. If ever there was a reason to walk............. "They lied to Keegan"? Get a grip, every manager has a similar story, things change. Wenger, Ferguson among others said they would have done the same in KK situation. There goes your theory. You have to be kidding me. Seriously?

That's a staggering statement. It would have found that Keegan was forced out. How can he still be blamed? How does getting compensation prove he did nothing wrong though? Er he would have won his case, that he couldn't do his job as initially agreed upon and that he was forced out they had breached his contract and that he had valid grounds to sue for his treatment. What would he have done wrong? He could have gone in the summer when he was fully aware of the system he was working in, not waited until the day after the transfer window closed to maximise the damage it would cause. He was clearly pissed off when he gave that interview after the Chelsea game at the end of the season - why not go then? He could also not have spent the whole time he was here telling the supporters via the press that he was happy with the situation and that there wasn't a problem. Mind that's not the story he obviously told in his off the record conversations is it? People (myself included) laughed and said all of these journalists were making shit up, but the truth is he's been dishonest throughout. he stayed untill the day he sent Wise and llambiarse out to sign Schweinsteiger, and they came back with two other muppets instead. Then Camels back was broken by this last straw. Keegan couldnt have known this would happen. He didn't "send them out" because they didn't report to him, he reported to them. Whether that's right or wrong (and it's wrong) that's the way it worked. OK then wrong choice of words. They told keegan they were going to sign him, and Didnt. They lied to Keegan. Would you stay in your job under management like that. Robson was sure he'd get Miguel and ended up with fucking Carr. If ever there was a reason to walk............. "They lied to Keegan"? Get a grip, every manager has a similar story, things change.

NE5 vs the World? Whatever happened to NE5 and Mick? Who is NE5?? NE5? God knows. NE3 is the place to be.

With their name being dragged through the mud all over the press that'll be why West Ham did so poorly last season and couldn't get taken over then. I must have missed the bit where West Ham fans collectively spat out the dummy and started a boycoutt over their infallible god-like hero Curbishley. You really hate Keegan don't you? No, he really hates Newcastle supporters, as going by that it's US to blame for the difference between what happened at NUFC & what happened at WHUFC. BTW how has this supposed "boycoutt" affected the club Ozzie? The boycoutt which saw us have the highest ever attendance for a team relegated in the UK & the 6th highest average attendance in England this season. The turmoil definitely affected our chances of getting a decent interim replacement after KK legged it. It may also have affected the sale, but who can really say whether any buyers were put off by the prospect of a fractious, difficult-to-satisfy fan base? I'm sure it makes us look a less attractive prospect, though. How could it make us more likely to find a buyer? The aftermath of the KK situation clearly affected what you've described above, but not to the extent that we were being run and owned by an incompetant did. The fact a retard was running the club meant it was extremely unlikely we were going to get a decent interim manager in (became an issue again when JFK got ill). He's also done a pretty poor job thus far of getting the club sold again, despite having ages to do it and claiming to be very keen to get out. It really puts prospective owners off knowing we can only get attendances higher than 3/4 of the premiership while in the 2nd division with no manager and an unpopular current owner. Agreed, we're a catch! Keegans lawsuit is the only hurdle left.

I can't believe that Keegan has caused this thread. What a cunt.

Some people on here, fully accepting that Keegan is capable of coming the game with the hierachy of NUFC but generally accepting that in doing so, he is doing it in the genuine and honest hope that it will be of the benefit of the club in the long term - fair point I feel. Keegan sitting down, thrashing out the issues, and if that failed, making things public and walking with his head held high forcing Ashley and co to explain themselves you could argue would show a 'genuine and honest hope that it will be of the benefit of the club in the long term'. Disappearing, suing the club binding all parties to a non disclosure agreement leading to confusion, impotant anger, boycotts and childish threats, continuing instability, and by the look of things, a masive hit to the club coffers that may have delayed any potential sale you could argue shows little to no indication of any interest in anything other than himself.

You think Llambias himself rang up the journalists to get the story out? Nah. Despite the piss poor PR from the club, they will have professionals to do that part of the job. As i asked earlier, to what purpose? How does your conspiracy theory see Ashley benefit from releasing a story that their incompetence might end up with the club going into administration? If, as the story says, Keegan wins, it would simply put the blame firmly at the feet of those that allowed him to have a case. It's just more tabloid toss to rile up the ranks. The story doesn't benefit anyone involved in the case.

Yep. He loves the club, of course, that goes without saying. Just loves it. Has he ever said this btw? Ah, just seen it in a rather amusing article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-508956/You-break-bank--Keegan-given-millions-spend-new-stars.html Amusing? Bliddy depressing more like.

That's just what I don't get though. How do we lose if the club wins, whether that means we can still keep hold of some of the high earners like Taylor/Enrique for longer, or another obstacle to the clubs sale is removed, and the next lot has more money to play around with?

Trying to paint Keegan as the devil again, and to blame for EVERYTHING that's gone wrong, perhaps? Huh? How would the club benifit from releasing a story that their incompetence might see the club go into administration. Just more tabloid tosh imho. If they blame Keegan they're absolving themselves of incompetence... Agree with your second point like. How would Keegan winning all that compo put the blame on Keegan. It would put it at the feet of those that allowed the money grabbing gittm to have a case, no? People love these evil conspiracies, but honesly, it's just more tabloid toss man.

Trying to paint Keegan as the devil again, and to blame for EVERYTHING that's gone wrong, perhaps? Huh? How would the club benifit from releasing a story that their incompetence might see the club go into administration. Just more tabloid tosh imho. ADMINISTRATION! Find out more in your soopa sooraway SUN!

Why should we believe you? How do you know .com?

You have to be joking. We'd have been a hell of a lot more of a selling club if there was 8 million less in the clubs coffers over the summer. Of course it makes a fucking difference.