James

Both me and Robster are speculating that if the illness is stress related, he could have had more support from the board from our perspectives. Very valid Ashley related argument in my opinion assuming what we see from the outside is what actually goes on behind closed doors.

Come on woman man. We're shit as fuck but he'd still drop Swansea like Xisco to come here. Yep chance to manage a Premiership team, or at worst he'd be a strong candidate for a manager if we wanted to come straight back up.

It still is, and has been for a few months a straight contest between Martinez and Ketsbaia for me.

That is absolute bollocks, sorry. The club like every other employer have a duty of care towards its employees but football is a stressful business, no employer could protect him from that. From an outside perspective, Kinnear looks to have been left to face immense pressure from the press, the fans, the players and other members of the board, with minimal support from anyone bar Hughton. A similar comparison between now and the past when someone has done much better in a similar situation would be Freddy Shepherd. Robert was mouthing off at Souness, and Freddy Shepherd spoke to the media and his his buffoonish manner, supported the manager and quashed the player. Derek Llambias should have done something similar to N'Zogbia this week. Yes, there is always stress, but there are ways of making the job less stressful, and from the outside, it appears that the likes of Llambias haven't done as much as they could have done.

Is it? Someone into employment law might know better, but cancelling a contract and withdrawing another based on health reasons for which NUFC may be culpable if stress related would have me consulting my lawyers if I was Kinnear.

This could be a legal minefield. JFK has time on his contract, and apparently has a hard copy of a contract the club wish to give him. NUFC could be liable for millions if they do something wrong.

And what the fuck has Kinnear being unwell got to do with Ashley ? If the illness is discovered to be stress related, it is ultimately down to Ashley and Llambias in that they haven't provided the necessary support for Kinnear and have effectively left him out to dry. Kinnear could have a very good legal case against NUFC if this turns out to be the case, more so than Keegan does.

Panic stations at boardroom level if that happenned. They wouldn't know what to do.

Perhaps we didn't spend as much in this window to be able to afford Xisco. Will be like a brand new signing.

Good shout. Well .cock says Hughton's in charge, but at least he has a more senior support team this time around.

His health is an issue though, people who have had heart attacks are told to avoid stress as all costs and football is a stressful business, you can't separate the two. Like I said, I hate Kinnear the manager, but I just think it would be unfair on anyone to jump to the heart problems conclusion while we await further news.

I know what you mean Mick. Ever since he first came to the club, I've worried about how his health might affect all of this. I wouldn't be suprised if this was a heart problem. The man is a fucking awful manager, but I hope he gets well soon As far as we know (and should hope) it could be something minor like suspected appendicitis turning out to be a bad curry. I'm no fan of Kinnear the football manager, but unleess he has something that will negatively impact his work on a day to day basis, we shouldn't be making his health an issue.

Fucking hell, get well soon.

Not with Kinnear in charge.

You vote by quoting the image you want.

You mistake hate for shock mate. I was genuinely surprised at the attendance last night. No hatred involved. I'm not surprised. One of the poorest regions in the country, a recession, loads of rival clubs, a long exile out of top flight football until 1992, a midweek game, a small population. A non-ST game. A poor team. Happenned before and will happen again. You'd see similar happen at the likes of Bolton and Wigan.

I've read less unnecessarily outraged hate in the Daily Mail.

How was Vuckic?

Do what Manchester United fans did to JP McManus, bring the protests to where they will be noticed by Ashley away from the club, i.e. outside his home, outside his favourite casino, outside his business headquarters.

No. Then why are you having a go at others for not going? Besides, threads like the Nile Ranger thread were ultimately your own creation

Are you going to the meeting HTT?

As long as he doesn't bring the rest of the team down with him on the pitch (Butt) or off the pitch (Zog) this transfer can only be positive in my opinion.

Probably bringing him back early for a recurrence.

What a load of BS that is, didn't finish reading it. Not bitter are we? It was a very good post and spot on in my opinion, nothing I haven't said for years, and is why he's never been bid for by a top manager at a top club. He was still our best player though sadly.