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Not strictly true as Norwich could relegate us both By they I assumed he meant both Sunderland and Norwich.

We wouldn't be safe, but we'd go into the Spurs game knowing that if we win we stay up no matter what.

He's just in poor form, when he was in good form his decision making was better and he was just quicker with everything he did. Even at his worst he's a good squad player with a lot of potential, at his best he's looked brilliant, so I wouldn't sell him.

Really hope he's fit, shitting my pants at the idea of Janmaat coming back in

It wasn't bitterness, it was schadenfreude. It's all part of football. The time to worry is when you go down and nobody bats a f***ing eyelid. People go on about 'the banners' but they're talking about two banners which could have been brought by one person for all we know. It's not like we were all riding around the city centre, sat on top of our cars, bibbing our horns and waving flags at 3am in the morning because you'd got relegated. Anyway, we know what it's like now - we've been slowly tortured to death in front of the entire world for one entire season now. We have had loads of p*ss take and media coverage about it and to be honest, it just makes me feel better - that us getting relegated is still 'a story'. Unlike pointless yoyo clubs like Albion or Norwich, up and down so often people forget where they are from one year to the next. This fixture is a great opportunity for you lot to take the p*ss back, and we're going to have to suck it up. The only problem is: 1. Your current league position which may render p*ss taking inadvisable before the end of the match. 2. The fact that that banner posted here is proper s****. Tbh Brummie, it was worse than you probably saw, although granted "bitter" is probably the wrong word to describe it. I've been to numerous away grounds down the years and never experienced the amount of abuse, threats of violence, wankers taking their turn to get in my face and eyeball me etc as on the train from aston to new st that day. Loads even followed us onto our platform to wring every last bit of piss-taking they could out of the day. That is not banter, it's really really odd behaviour. Heard stories from more than one group of fans I see regularly that villa fans were driving up the motorway taunting coaches by waving flags and beeping horns. The banners and singing in stadium were fine and all part of the crack imo but it was after, outside that a large majority (but I would stress not all) of villa fans just seemed to collectively turn into a pack of rabid zombies. That said, it was SEVEN fucking years ago. That people still seem to be genuinely upset baffles me, and as for the banners in this thread well, Jesus fucking wept!! Personally, I'd turn up and not even mention the whole thing- as Brummie has alluded to, no-one likes being ignored or feeling unimportant. I resent that the whole Villa thing has basically become part of our culture as a fanbase now. I hate that every time we play Villa the same articles surface in the mag and true faith. It just comes across as very bitter and we used to be bigger and better than that. Those banners were designed to get a rise out of us- 7 years later we're still biting, you couldn't make it up. It's a massive game for NUFC on Saturday, all efforts should go into supporting the manager and the team. And as for the opposition, fuck giving them the attention they want. Aston who?? Any group of fans would dislike another set of fans who acted like such cunts. We aren't bigger and better than that and we never were, no group of fans are as its really part of Football. Having said that yeah we shouldn't be pissing about with banners in this game, we need to concentrate on supporting our side above all else.

We're already out of the bottom 3 though, which I think was the point.

Aye, we'd be second even if you just went back 4 games though.

You mean if they go down?, they'd get up to £87m spread over three seasons: 2016-17 - £40 million 2017-18 - £33 million 2018-19 - £14 million But they got £70m last season alone and still managed to lose £25.5m. EDIT: Thought the money was spread evenly per season but apparently not.

It was obviously far too late for Marveaux by the time Rafa came in.

NUFC came out and said they didn't want to qualify for Europe, or have a cup run. What was the manager (Pardew or any other) supposed to do with that? As if Pardew didn't have a big part to play in that..

Nah it did matter like. Pardew wasn't just an arse licking obsequious yes man, he was the most unbearable tosser imaginable. That definitely made things worse, few people could make so many fans want their own club to lose.

It does look like a face looking down on the stadium. I'm unsure how that's considered to be a good sign though.

Aye, no better time to play Tottenham either.

We're 2nd bottom and odds on for relegation. To be fair to them if they're not confident of beating us who exactly could they be confident of beating? They shouldn't be confident of beating anybody, they're fucking horrible. Only reason they're safe is their good start, since the turn of the year they've been the worst side in the league.

That's the parachute payments after relegation (the money split over 3 seasons you're referring to). But whether we stay up or go down we're still due our £80m or so for being in the Premier League this season. Of course if we do go down we'd need to use that to help cushion the financial blow.

Screaming "fucking hit it" at the TV, Arsenal are unbelievably frustrating to watch.

Would assume that's the point of the arms length rate. They'll probably have a third party assess what kind of money should be paid for that kind of service so that questions can't be raised about its legitimacy.

You reckon nobody ever lies about being burgled then?

Right and if its proven beyond all reasonably doubt that someone lied in order to try to get someone put in prison of course they should be punished, rape cases in that respect should be no different to any other. That's not the same as being punished simply for not proving their case though. I mean are you saying people should get a completely free pass to accuse someone of a crime with no chance of any repercussions no matter how frivolous the claim? That would obviously be wrong and go against the entire legal system.

Of course, nobody should be punished just because their case wasn't proven, that's not how the law works and it never will be no matter who calls for it.

Ah better keep him as guilty even if he's innocent then..

Aye, just remember both playing a lot more before that happened. Lascelles was obviously very young and inexperienced, but I think the feeling at the time (from reading the Forrest forums) was that he'd be playing for them had his transfer here not been decided already.

As far as I remember both him and Darlow were regulars until their transfer here was agreed behind the managers back.

Played really well, he's got so much confidence in himself and his ability to beat a man, plus he can put a good ball into the box. Far better than I thought he was before we bought him.

At least it looks like we'll be in with a shout on the last day, which looked impossible before Rafa arrived. Hope to god Tottenham have nowt to play for by then!