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Not. Why the question?

Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Not going to answer the question Alex put to you or will that show you up as being someone who puts in a random comment without the knowledge to actually back it up? How is he anything like Roeder? down boy he's an average English type motivator and tactician who doggedly sticks by his favourite players howzzat for starters? I could see why someone would argue the above, excluding the bits in bold. Roeder doesn't appear to be either, nowadays...

Get out. And take your new-fangled thinkings with you. There's no place for the likes of those ideas at SJP. so Roeder is a crap manager because he doesn't spend his training time with his international footballers telling them not to throw the ball to the opposition? Yes, because they clearly need guidance on the issue.

Yep. I imagine many of us could think of people we'd rather have to some degree or other, but I've said for some time that some of his particular strengths are areas in which we're particularly weak. Cutting-edge off-field techniques, a Manager who knows his own mind and will demand the best from the Board, and the knowledge of how not to throw the ball directly to the opposition in your own half, for example.

Nothing to do with the Royals, but aside from that, I agree

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/worldcup/2006/04/philmcnulty.html

I once had really high hopes for Taylor, I don't now. Maybe it was Souness, maybe it was the injury, maybe it was Souness's handling of the injury, maybe it's just because he lacks the brains to progress, I dunno. Whatever the case, I wouldn't be too bothered about seeing him depart as he seems to have gone backwards, if anything. Maybe we could put Owen to use and have him fly Tony Adams up from Portsmouth in that helicopter of his for a few one to one sessions, see if we can salvage him.

Take your point but it doesn't even register on my fuckedoffometer tonight. Oh, i've plenty of other things, but this is one of the ones other people aren't taking care of for me. Just sheer frustration I suppose. He shouldn't have done it and you can't condone it..........but I sort of understood why he did it. I mean how many times has he been in a 2 legged tie in which he was 3 goals up after 20 minutes - only to lose the fucker? Can you imagine Man U doing that? If it was a one off I'd leave it, but this is the third or fourth time that I can recall. This thread is probably not appropriate for the hours after a match, but for more general conversation I think it needs saying - he needs to sort himself out because he looks less like a title-winner and more like a lairy drunk. It isn't how I'd want, or accept, anger at our performance being expressed. Frankly, I'd be less annoyed if he'd behaved that way towards one or two of ours in the dressing room. As it was he was classless and made us look bad.

I take it Roeder backed our completely impotent approach of hoofing the ball up the pitch for Sibierski to head on for a Martins sprint. You might've thought we'd learn after the first six or seven attempts that not much good was coming of it - for us, anyway - I'm sure Alkmaar loved it. We scored four fine goals against them in the first leg and not one of them involved that particular manoeuvre at any one point. Fast, precise, incisive grass-level passes were the order of the day and we tore them apart. Today we did everything we could to avoid such guile. Bloody idiocy. As ever, of course, once we were behind we decided to try something other than aimless punts. Too late by then, unfortunately, with desperation then commanding our guiding strategy.

Take your point but it doesn't even register on my fuckedoffometer tonight. Oh, i've plenty of other things, but this is one of the ones other people aren't taking care of for me.

Seems this hasn't really been mentioned and I thought he deserved his own little plot of the forum after tonight. It's not the first time he's done something bloody irresponsible through petulance. What good did any of that display do us? He's supposed to be one of our senior example-setters, instead he's taken out his frustrations on one of their defenders before shaping to smack one of the guy's teammates who had the nerve to object - right in front of the referee I might add. When I first saw the dispute was taking place, I backed my man, as you do, though I hung back a little due to prior reputation. When blind you know where to place your loyalty. However, the replay left no doubt as to who was at fault, and that Butt had the temerity to continue in the manner has pissed me off, not least because I know how I'd feel if similar behaviour were exhibited by some barbarous Greek towards one of our own. Consistency demands I object now, therefore.

Says something when I'm sitting there missing Carr on the left.

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You know what this means - lump on for the title next season, lads!

They don't have to lose to go out, though. That said, I'm strangely confident that we have an excellent chance of going out there and putting that record to bed.

Generally speaking, I'm a supporter of Emre's (in the context of our central-midfield squad) as I feel his presence can be the difference between us breaking down a defence and hitting our head against two brick walls on the wings. That said (and bearing in mind I wasn't at last night's match and had to make do with the telly), I thought what Parker can do well did us good last night. AZ were physically intimidated, bullied, by us over most of the pitch, and Parker's tackling and harrying appeared to play a part in that. I generally think Parker lacks the wit and overall brains to make good use of his tackling, getting drawn all over the pitch by a confident display of slick-passing by an intelligent continental team, but I think he may have a role against some of the physically (and perhaps mentally) weaker opponents we may come up against. Regarding Emre, he may not be perfect, but I think he's the best we've got just now at doing something critical to our wider success. Thinking of talk about him helping our left wing, though, the best thing we can do on that front is to get ourselves a good attacking Left-Back. Unlike many people, I miss Babayaro when he's not around. Not because I especially like him as a player, but because he's vaguely useful at feeding, supporting and providing a passing option to Emre and our Left-Winger. As you can imagine, though, I'd rather get some of genuine quality this Summer.

I disagree. In fact in many ways, I think it can be easier as the home side perceive the onus as being them to open up and attack, allowing a side with the likes of Martins and Dyer in it to hit them on the break. In contrast, we always find it harder to break down a team that compacts itself at SJP. If IIIII were the manager... I'd alter the focus of these ties and see the away leg as an opportunity to upset the opposition's applecart and score a few goals. And yes, I agree broadly with the OP. I also disagree with the criticism of penalties - I've always been a supporter (and fan) of them.

I can't agree with some of the depictions of him in this thread. Maybe there are a few issues with him, inconsistency and such, but this idea that he has an awful first touch, that he's a poor passer and has the brain of an idiot (along with all the rest) is just wrong, as far as I'm concerned. Often times, ideas he has don't come off because the players around him are too slow to cooperate, in fact, whilst his first touch and passing (and first touch passing) frequently wreck a defensive formation. That second goal of his was a first touch shot, for good measure.

I don't place too much blame upon him, but Butt should really have been covering the guy who scored. He made the wrong decision in following the ball wide and lost him. It wasn't an easy situation to cope with, though.

Good thinking

Aye, found that myself, mate Was just wondering whether anyone on here had anything to add, as he seems to be a bloke you notice.

Have I missed something? http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?action=arcade;sa=highscore;game=723 He's not only beaten it, he's annihilated it, the utter utter bastard.

Have I missed something?

Anyone remember him? Apparently he worked with Jack Charlton up here, as well as elsewhere. Fitness was his thing. I have to say I've never heard of him, but I'll be coming into contact with him for a while, so I just wondered if anyone else knew (of) him.

Bit off-topic, but that was at the request of the Champions, as much as anything. A lack of competitive matches serves to harm future campaigns.