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That's what disappoints me the most, as I said yesterday all the attention is on joey, yet of the three players invol ed in unsavoury activiy yesterday, he was the one least in the wrong. A player who intentionally and cowardly stamped on another achielles, something that could easy have result in a seasn or career ending injury and a person who tried to cheat and raised his hands to the face of another player are forgotten about because joey grab the said cheater's shirt too vigorously and made the most of of slap. Sad that some of the most vocal profess to support this club. I don't think a single person across the country has ignored the stamp, it's been roundly condemned and there have been calls for the FA to look at the video for further punishment. That doesn't mean we keep our head in the sand wrt our own players and how they conduct themselves. I don't want to see them putting themselves in a position where they might get sent off, and Barton came perilously close to it yesterday. If the ref had been looking the right way he'd have gone IMO.

Seems like Pardew is keener on Premier based strikers while the club are still pushing for Erdinc. Seems they value Carr's opinion higher than Pardew's if that's the case. Can't say I blame them.

I can't say I thought that much of the subs either but then very few Newcastle managers ever seem to make changes that make sense to me. Ba and Shola together looks like a car crash of a plan. I hope we don't see it too many more times because it's never going to work for me.

Pretty confident we will score tbh. Although Wes Brown has made a difference to their defensive unit.

Definitely. Give him plenty of the ball, and let him run riot. so neither of you would persevere with shola up top and 50 yard hoofs upfield then? good to know 'cause apparently yesterday that should have been considered a managerial fucking masterclass ba and obertan up top, same midfield as today and hopefully a LB by then and we should do them I said the same as you but someone reckoned playing two big men and hoofing it 50 yds allowed us to sit deep and nullify Arsenal which we did mostly. Can't say I'm a fan of the tactic but we got a point and probably would have got picked apart if we'd tried to go at it. Plus some of the players still looked rusty. I'd be moaning if we continued to play that way though.

I would agree that Woodgate when he was fit is the best defender I've seen at the club. Colo's been superb but he still has the odd game where he makes a gaffe. Overall though Colo has been the better player for us by a mile simply in his consistency and monumental fitness record.

I'm pretty sure if an Arsenal player had grabbed Barton from the floor and manhandled him everyone here would have been screaming for a red. I don't see how you can lay your hands on an opposition player in an aggressive manner and not risk being sent off.

He's better because he plays more games. 100% correct

Pardew in the Sun... “I took Demba off because we weren’t holding the ball up enough. We couldn’t get enough assets from him,” he said. “For tactical reasons I brought on Gabby...." Did he mean Shola wasn't holding the ball up or Ba? I don't know that much about Ba but I never figured him as a forward whose asset was holding the ball up, at least not when the ball is being launched at him through the air.

Looked like he was instructed not to go so far past the half way line. Didn´t screw up once, and was accurate with his passes. Sounds like vintage Dalglish

There is also the flip side, where we sign a new LB before Enrique goes.... Liverpool then know we have two 'first choice' left backs... one of which desperately wants away, and they start throwing lower offers in for JE. Its just that fine balancing act of trying to get the best price for our player, but also trying not to pay over the odds for the next one. Liverpool know how it works because they've got football people running their club whereas we're run by people who have little experience. In January Liverpool had a similar situation with trying to offload Torres and buy Carroll. They made it clear they weren't prepared to sell Torres until they signed Carroll. They played it perfectly, getting exactly what they wanted whereas we were left short. They've just taken Enrique and Lo and behold we've been left short again. Anyone spotting any patterns here? At least we've not sold him on deadline day I suppose.... Looking at yesterday's game Liverpool seem to hae spent a fortune on going backwards. Charlie Adam and Jordan Henderson are barely better than most run of the mill premier midfielders and they looked a lot less fluid as a team than the one which was starting last season. If that's what having proper football people at the club gets you then they are welcome to it.

Says more about you than Dyer, or any fans who could see what he brought to us at the time.

He showed goal hunger Ian. Constantly looking to get into goal scoring positions in the penalty area. Not the worst quality in a forward really.

I thought he was really lucky not to have got sent off after yanking Gervinho from the ground by his shirt. You shouldn't lay your hands on a player in such an aggressive manner and expect to get away with it. I find it amusing that anyone who sees it that way is accused of bias. The irony

I'll say it again. Gervinho ran past him in the first half as if he wasn't there, and only the two central defenders bailed him out otherwise we'd definitely have conceded during that period. It wouldn't be so bad but the only time we got a dangerous free kick position in the last 5 mins, instead of putting in a dangerous cross from a great area, he shot tamely from a daft angle.

Even though he wasn't involved as much as I would have liked due to our lack of possession, I did notice that he got into the penalty area a couple of times in goal scoring positions. I think he'll get a few goals over the season once he has got the feel for English football.

Can't even be bothered to pick up the Sunday Sun even to look at the back pages any more, never mind pay for a copy. Such has been the crap factor in the stories which he's leaked on twitter.

Do you save these old posts to your hard drive then file them in alphabetical order for future reference? Do you forget every moronic thing you say as soon as you've said it? I'm starting to realise it's a really hard concept for some to grasp, but there's a thing called a "search". You should really ask someone to explain it to you. You might have heard of a company called "google" they made this kind of thing quite popular on the internet. I know that you tool, it's more a reference to your need to go digging out old posts to try and undermine someone's view. I don't know what you think it's going to prove other than your own psychological issues. Erm, it proves by your own judgement you can barely tell your arse from your elbow. If you say so. I'm sure I could dig up some of your early posts about Coloccini which might look a bit daft in hindsight but I really can't be arsed

That's how I saw it as well. Gervinho was running past him as if he wasn't there for the first 45 mins. Only their poor end product and sterling work from the central defenders saved us from conceding in that period.

Do you save these old posts to your hard drive then file them in alphabetical order for future reference? Do you forget every moronic thing you say as soon as you've said it? I'm starting to realise it's a really hard concept for some to grasp, but there's a thing called a "search". You should really ask someone to explain it to you. You might have heard of a company called "google" they made this kind of thing quite popular on the internet. I know that you tool, it's more a reference to your need to go digging out old posts to try and undermine someone's view. I don't know what you think it's going to prove other than your own psychological issues.

Can he hold the ball up? I can't say I've ever noticed that side of his game, but it worries me that we have so many 6 ft strikers and not many of them do it very well. Although that might be because they get the ball launched at them from distance for 90% of the game.

I agree, draw written all over it.

Do you save these old posts to your hard drive then file them in alphabetical order for future reference?

Yeah Obertan was definitely looking up for it and the missing players will make a difference. I still think a quick forward playing off the front man would give us something extra though. I'm not sure if Bendtner isn't too similar to players we already have here.