Mick

Dyer's Black.

My guess from people complaining that they have had threads and posts deleted is that Oliver has had a slagging.

Foresight isn't the best word to use when defending Shepherd, it just comes back to bite him on the arse when Souness and Roeder are brought into it. Most had the foresight to know that these two appointments were never likely to work, the Chairman didn't. 2 of the appointments were good on paper, 1 worked out to a certain degree and 2 were always destined to fail.

That's just a myth, as far as I'm aware he was only at the academy for 6 months, hardly enough time to do anything good or bad. It's like the myth that he was an England coach when he said himself in an interview that he was an England scout.

I find it hard to understand that somebody can call themselves a Newcastle supporter and yet be able to defend Roeder, especially to want to keep him because of 1 good game.

it took a few years of very poor football and then a 3-0 kicking at man city for souness to go. "protesting" after the match is pointless if the people who are "protesting" have just been to the match. Souness didn't go because we lost against Man City - Fact. He went because two of our players collided.

You can't blame Shepherd for that one, I think it was before he took over.

Looking at the league table, we're 11th and the 3 teams below us can get above us if they win the games they have in hand.

I'm surprised that I still get pissed off that we're going nowhere.

I remember that happening.

You can't blame Shepherd for appointing Roeder, he went along with the fans after getting inundated with text messages.

We can have no excuses for this defeat, we had virtually a fully fit squad and we were a shambles in the first half. The second half was a bit better but in reality it couldn't get any worse. I wonder what or who gets the blame for this?

They could appoint Roeder.

You do have a point with that one.

I'm sure I'd find the same thing said before he went to the World Cup if I searched through the forum.

He was supposed to be fit when he went to the World Cup but he still came back injured, I'm not sure he would have picked that injury up if he'd been 100% fit and playing for us. If you've got weak muscles then you put extra strain on other parts of your body, it's not worth taking a chance. Time will tell if anything comes from this.

I would rather he had all summer off and came back for the new season. It's not as if he's going to be rolling around in mud during July when he comes back for pre-season training. I can't see playing 90 minutes in a one off game doing him that much good because any fitness gained will be lost by the time he returns.

I doubt we'll be able to stop him playing for England although I would rather he didn't play. If the article is true then Freddy is way out of order, he should make his requests in private to Owen and the FA and leave it at that, an article isn't going to make any difference other than to stir up shit.

Newcastle probably does have the potential he mentions, the only trouble is that the club is not in a position to realise that potential.

I thought Duff was a snip at the price we paid, I also thought that he was a player that we didn't need, so far the price looks way over the top.

Proof.

Not guilty.

I'll give Roeder credit we won, we still played against shite.

so why don't we have articles from Chris Coleman and Neil Warnock and Paul Jewell on it? That's already been answered, they were out of contact with the press, they'll have been getting ready for the games today.