Mick

The Shearer roll at the club must be massive, it was even mentioned by Freddy as a plus point when talking about the financial figures.

Here's what the Chronicle is reporting: Link Euro failure costs UnitedOct 27 2006 By Nick Whitten, The Evening Chronicle Failure to secure European football last season cost Newcastle United dear - the club today reported a yearly loss of £12m. Losing out on lucrative TV cash by not playing Uefa Cup football last season saw revenues and profits at St James' Park drop significantly. The club's preliminary results for the 11 months ending on June 30, 2006, show revenue fell from £87m in the previous full year to £83.1m. Summer signings during the 2005 transfer window included the £17m record buy of Michael Owen from Real Madrid and the £9m spent on Albert Luque from Deportivo La Coruna. The club also paid £800,000 to former manager Graeme Souness. And the figures do not include the £15m spent on Damien Duff and Obafemi Martins this summer. But when player trading isn't taken into account, the club actually made a small operating profit of £200,000. The club pointed to positives such as the revival of the stadium as a pop concert venue status, with a 16,000 crowd attending the Bryan Adams concert in June, which generated a profit. And the club said looking ahead there was reason to be optimistic after qualification for this season's Uefa Cup was secured. Club chairman Freddy Shepherd said: "This year has been a period of the transition for the club. "The team performances in the first half of last season fell significantly below our level of expectations. "However, following the board's decision to make changes at management level, the first team had an excellent run in the second half of the season, finishing a satisfactory seventh place in the Premiership and qualifying for the UEFA Cup through the Intertoto Cup. "Glenn was appointed full time team manager in May of this year. "In June, Alan Shearer's retirement marked the end of an era at Newcastle. Alan is and always will be remembered as a true great. "He is one of the finest Newcastle and England players to have ever graced a football pitch. "I am delighted Alan has accepted the role of sporting ambassador for United. He has all the qualities to ably represent the club around the world. "This season has not started as we would have liked, however, there are signs of improvement including our recent qualification into the group stages of the UEFA Cup. "The board believe the investment it has made in all areas of the club will deliver long term benefits and will continue to take every step necessary to maximise potential for success."

We can live in hope.

Thing is though Macbeth that the title of Finance Director is just that, a title. I could pretty much guarantee that Shep has employed someone who performs the role of finance director and someone who performs the role of marketing direct. But they won't have director after their name to keep salary costs down. I would seriously doubt that Shep gets his hands dirty on financial or marketing activities apart from rubber stamping accounts or finalising details. pretty much agree. It's quite amazing the amount of people who are obsessed by fancy titles, and other such dressings in this world we live in of "objectives", "investors for people" and other such shite - Adam Crozier - a man who macbeth admires - did a shit job for the FA but no doubt the job title of Chief Executive, or whatever it was, leads him to believe otherwise ..... Don't expect macbeth to give any credit to the board or chairman for keeping costs down - the simple fact is that in football the most effective financial input of all is gained through winning games on the pitch, and playing regularly in europe has put a lot of money through Newcastle United. Of course - everyone else does, so it doesn't make us one of the countries leading clubs in any shape of form Care to comment on this NE5? It was posted just over two weeks ago.

We only got a few thousand for him, we sold ourselves short on that one but we didn't make a £12 million loss for that financial year, I think Shepherd has set a new record with that one. NE5 will probably turn it around and make it sound positive, the shit old board would have made a £100 million loss if they were still running the club - FACT.

What has that got to do with our £12 million loss, even you can't blame any of them for that, can you?

Freddy, You'll not fool anybody except yourself, we know it wasn't your fault for appointing the managers, it was the managers faults for being crap and asking you to spend money, you're totally innocent.

I can see where you're coming from with that, it's another possibility.

HTL agrees that Shepherd has to take the blame. Doesn't he? The shite management was to blame, it was Souness. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,31152.msg594426.html#msg594426

Who is going to put up the best defence for Shepherd? Will it be NE5, HTL or Alan Oliver?

If you want to know what Douglas does for his money, see below.

Shepherd has pawned the club because HE appointed a shocking manager and wanted to save face. Those who are still defending him should be hung from the Tyne Bridge, the last defence they had for him, managing the finances, has just been shot out of the water. Shepherd Out.

Lies, Shepherd told us that the wage bill was reducing and was only high last year because of the money paid out to a sacked manager. bluebiggrin.gif

The man is a grade A fool, he's so far up Shepherd it's ambarassing. Link When West Midlands referee Andre Marriner decided to give this Carling Cup tie the green light only one thing was certain at a saturated St James' Park last night. And as the rain sleeted down and the ball stuck in the puddles, it was obvious that the team that wanted to win most would win it. Well that team was Newcastle United, and Harry Redknapp and his Pompey boys must have been glad that they were not flying back to the south coast on the back of a five or six-goal humiliation. That's how much United were on top after the first evenly-fought 20 minutes, as both sides struggled in conditions which could easily have seen the game called off right up to half-time. But once Mr Marriner decided to keep playing after the break and United scored twice in six minutes, Portsmouth may as well have gone home. And in the end all they could do was keep the score down. So Newcastle United, who are supposed to be in a crisis, are carrying the North East hopes in both the Carling Cup and in Europe for the rest of the season. And while they have struggled to get results in the Premiership this term, United's cup record is six wins and two draws from their eight games. Certainly there were plenty of plusses for Glenn Roeder last night and hardly any negatives. Nobby Solano's first goals for the club in the Carling Cup . . . Seppe Rossi's first goal for the club . . . A second clean sheet in the last three games . . . Damien Duff coming on as a second-half substitute and looking the class winger he is . . . James Milner knowing that Roeder has full confidence in him and repaying that confidence . . . Kieron Dyer back for half an hour and looking as though he had never been away . . . And what about Charles N'Zogbia? With Emre and Scott Parker both injured the young Frenchman was given a more central role, and how he relished the occasion . . . But perhaps for me the biggest plus was Titus Bramble. Pompey were only a threat for the first 20 minutes, but Bramble was in no mood to let the team currently in fifth place in the Premiership make any progress in the Carling Cup. Pompey midfielder Sean Davis took the mickey out of the United defender on Soccer AM on Saturday saying that he was having a "Titus Bramble" meaning a nightmare. Well dare I suggest that Bramble should be claiming that the Pompey midfielder had a "Sean Davis" after his poor show and subsequent substitution last night? But if Davis was poor, what about Andy Cole? I had to check my teamsheet after the game to see if the former United striker had been playing. Yet all the time he had been hiding in Craig Moore's pocket along with Mark Viduka from The Riverside Stadium on Sunday afternoon. The 30-year-old Aussie, who was skipper last night, may not have the legs these days but, as was the case last night, he has never let United down. Roeder put all the credit for last night's victory on his players at a time when people who should know better are asking whether he is going to be sacked or not. He has now actually won two more games than he has lost this season, and after last night Roeder has been in charge of United for 34 games and won 19 of them, compared with just 10 defeats. And he certainly won his little confrontation with the highly-acclaimed Harry Redknapp last night.

John I have rephrased the question in the other thread to make it easier for you. I know a few lads who are long term supporters, one of which is a mate of one of them and writes for the club programme, called Fink. Fink has not missed a game in about 30 years, home or away, so i am led to believe. I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever in saying he is a better supporter than me. How can't he be. Even though I spent years living away from Tyneside and contributes to the fact he has seen more games than me, it changes nothing, it has absolutely nothing to do with it. When I was away I went to matches as often as possible, more than a lot of people living in Newcastle too, especially because the team was shit, and 30000 weren't interested. But Fink is the best supporter I know of, period. Anyone who lays down their cash and time to follow the club, if they are in a position to do so, is a better supporter than one who chooses not to. Whats more, the club recognises it too. You see, the next time we play a big all ticket game, those fans will be at the front of the queue. And rightly so. When did you live away from the North East?

Source The man/company clearly have no clue when it comes to running a football club eh? :roll: I could sear I posted the same about him in the last thread. Oh well. Geoff Lord has nothing to do with the group who are looking at the club, it's a different Belgravia.

Pot. Kettle. Black. emot-yawn.gif Again, Pot. Kettle. Black.

Post match thoughts, Shepherd out.

The Henry Winter article is attracting quite a bit of comment from people. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=ZQTR2OTUBC2PXQFIQMGSFGGAVCBQWIV0?xml=/sport/2006/10/24/sfnwin24.xml&posted=true&_requestid=388372#comments

That "one sided thing" contained plenty of quotes that were put down as coming from people who have not denied them, I wonder why the quotes weren't denied?

Because fat Fred wil probably get the wrong end of the stick and he'll give us all a free hankie each for the next home match to wave about.

You are never wrong Phil except where it comes to leaving the forum in the hands of HTT I've already told you, you're crap at getting your point across. bluebiggrin.gif

I love you too big boy, for an old man how come your posts are so immature?! If that's what he'd done, and all he'd done, you might have a point. His overall record is not as rosy as you’d selectively put it. I know I’m not telling many people on here what they don’t already know, but it certainly points to a trend that shows up flaws in the chairman rather than the managers. A history of backing then sacking… Dalglish - 4 British leagues and 2 cups to his name on arrival and on paper a good manager, shame he went to an extreme in trying to shore up Keegan’s team, but a choice few argued with (I never liked him personally and didn’t agree with it at the time, but this is embarrasingly negated with how much I did support the Gullit appointment). He gave him 17 months, and sacked him with win/lose/draw percentages of 38/33/29. He sacked a proven manager after just 2 games of a new season having given him £15million to spend. Bloody Genius. Gullit – 1 cup to his name on arrival. Great player but had proved nowt as a manager before and hasn’t since, his performance on that celebrity game was bad even by Sunday league standards. I loved the appointment myself and a lot of people would argue that Shearer’s position in the club needed bringing down a peg or two. No one player bigger than the club? Bollocks. 3 weeks into the season he resigned, You guess he would’ve been pushed otherwise. His percentages were 35/38/27. I’m not sure what he was given in the summer that year, but it was thirty or 40 million in his time at the club. Robson – Too many trophies to name, a legend and an appointment no-one could argue with, the fact that Robson would have filled the dugout with hot coals and stood on them through every game to manage us, leads me to question how much work was done by the chairman to attract him. After diminishing returns from each of the previous 3 managers, this one pulled it out of the bag for us all. His percentages stand up as a vast improvement and the best of his appointments (47/28/25). Another manager sacked in August (surprise surprise), for an unacceptable start to the season, but only after giving him £10million to spend in the preceding months Souness – 4 leagues and 8 cups. Any manager who looks at a chairman and thinks “you sacked Bobby Robson” knows he’s going to have to perform to an almost impossible level to keep the bloke happy, the expectations of the board being so high scared off any potential managers available at the time. There was only one man greedy enough to take a position that could only make him look worse (difficult when he was already dragging his current team toward relegation). Of course he was a disaster, £46 million pound later he was sacked, most confusingly he survived a worse start to the season than the last manager and was given a chance to save face (for the chairman) all the way to February. His record wasn’t too bad in terms of wins (44/33/21) but the class of opposition were far inferior in a sequence of cup runs that disguises how bad a manager he is. Still, of the 3 top class managers you think should stand in Shepherd’s favour, Souness won more games than two of them. Roeder – 56/28/15 is a better record than Robsons, despite the lack of inspiration in the appointment, the ship was steadied. Jumping on the sack Roeder bandwagon might leave him as Shepherds best performer, but it wouldn’t do the club any favours as it simply rocks the boat all over again. So, looking at the managers appointed in the past, it’s difficult to say that trophies are any indication of how the’ll perform, that’s why I never did. I can’t say if O’Neill would have performed as well or worse than Roeder. The only thing I think you can say is that Shepherd likes to back and then to sack his managers, he’s made the club a less attractive prospect with each subsequent change and he’s getting one hell of a wage. My first choice is the man in the job at the minute. Let him get on with it. If a new owner can attract a top class name, excellent. But I know for a fact that Shepherd can’t, so leave it as it is I say. Excellent post, you should come in here more often.

The timing stinks, it's pathetic really.