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Where has the club suggested a figure? And it clearly shows they're doing everything to keep him when they're putting him on the transfer list when he refuses their offer. Not digging at you magorific, I just don't really understand your post.

What about Shoot?

They're better with Carragher. Never rated him too much, and his ability has dipped. But, as a 'Scouse through and through', he's clearly a big influence at the club. Suppose he's one of their 'Nolans'. Not the highest quality but is a big character for them.

Here we go. So who's doing our transfers now? You realise we don't have a 'Director of Football' anymore, right?

I said he made some good signings, of course he had some shite in there as well. But there was some good deals in there too. And I've already stated I wasn't a fan of just how much he broke that squad up. Besides, can we really complain about Barnes? He was our top scorer one year! :lol: Fucking hell, John Barnes top scorer, said it all really.

I'm with VI, not now, and not after. Should've been done earlier if they had the chance. Really get some movement going on opening this can of worms and getting some change. I don't care about losing the World Cup if it means changing world football for the better, no matter how small. At what point do we keep sitting back?

That's been my main argument. There's players that are on the ridiculous wages from the past regime and the beginning of Ashley's. And I hoped we havn't bowed to his pressure, as he needs to know that those days are over, and it's not going to be a never-ending cycle of 'he gets more than me, I should get more'.

Think it should be locked until proper news comes out about him. Depressing everytime this gets bumped

I think madras may be thinking of an incident second half where they both went for it again? Not sure though. The moment we're all talking about here was definitely Shola, though.

the thing is we needed major surgery at the time keegan left but many people just see dalglish coming in and splitting up the team out of spite. A team finishing 2nd twice in a row needed a major revamp, i've heard it all now. I can see where madras is coming from in a way, a few changes were needed. Like mentioned, Ferdinand, at first glance seemed like a smart move. 6 mill for a 30 year old, getting a young starlet like Tomasson. Just a shame Shearer got injured and Ferdinand's a man of his word and wouldn't cancel his move to Spurs after he verbally agreed to sign. Beardsley finally losing steam. But I don't feel to the extent that the team changed. When you consider some of the signings he made, it wasn't as bad as people make out (Didi, Speed, Solano, Given). But I still wouldn't say he needed to splilt the team up as much as he did.

So, I was at work, didn't catch the game. Worth watching it on Sky+?

He could step up a bit, to a Europa League challenging team, but I think in the time we'd get a bid (highly doubt he'll leave after 1 season), we've hopefully built ourselves up to be able to keep him anyway. That's not even factoring in the possibility of Ashley rejecting said overtures ( really could happen guys!), or Cheick even rejecting the move.

Only just saw this post. Jesus Christ on a motherfucking bike Hughton's signings are arguably his best asset so far! Run close by the high morale he's kept in the camp.

These past 2 pages are so depressing! Like someone said, imagine us now if Sir Bobby had accepted to come to us after Keegan. One of the few men who wouldn't see the need to break up a team just to 'stamp his mark'... Souness, easily our worst appointment. Dalglish was a shite regime, but too many factors that imo he had out of his control. He had to rebuild the whole reserves and academy again, remember. So that's why his signings look so shoddy. Still got a lot of good players that we remember fondly to this day. But Souness, everything was his own doing. He still had many good years in Bellamy, and a year or 2 from Robert (from how his career's panned out since). But he had to 'prove a point'. I agree that as a person he seems like a good guy. To be honest, he's probably a football name I wouldn't mind sitting down and having a couple of pints with. If only to see if I could get a more candid explanation of how he felt his time was here, off the record. But out of the hotseat and in the hotseat, you can be complete opposites, and I think that's his biggest problem. Had to play up the hardman image after his playing days ended. And his general bad decision making of course.

KI sums up why I can't see him moving along to another club very quickly. He's fucking immense, more than quality enough for a team in our situation. But if he's going to step up much further, a little improvement is needed. And in that time, hopefully we've built the club back up to a respectable level to keep talent like him. Don't get me wrong, love the guy to bits and hope he stays for the rest of his career at this rate. But he's not top 4 quality. At the same time I think he's the sort of player capable of improving, and he's got the raw attributes. Looking forward to see him in our team for years to come.

Exactly my thoughts. Well, like I said, 2 good games. 2 games where everyone was on song and it just went perfectly for us, no one underperformed. So he's good when every single other player is good, but other than that, seems to be the same below-par striker we've endured for the majority of this decade he's been with us.

Like I say Minhosa, can't be sure. That's just the way it seemed to sound to me from interviews etc. McClaren said he'd suit the English game perfectly and is a fantastic player, but he only ever used him off the bench. Considering they were the Champions, maybe they just didn't need to use a space for a defence-minded player when they controlled games so easily? Complete guess, I know nothing of the Dutch leagues

He wasn't really a starter for them, just came on and shored up the defence late in a game. Don't think he was as suited to the Dutch game to be truly appreciated from the sounds of it.

'Cause we're a scummy big club that tried to bully them around, supposedly.

As far as I recall he ended up having to pay a fair wedge after it going to some sort of ruling?

de Jong? Toure YaYa? Barry to an extent? Exactly, they're pretty thin on the ground.

That's unbelievable! Must be a while since we've had a team worth that little.

That's one hell of a cock slap. Was only the tip of it as well.

Even if he didn't make it in the Prem, he would've been a bargain imo just for tiding us over for the Championship season. The way he's performed this season, can't complain one bit.