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You hate Dalglish more than McClaren? That's just plain fucking weird. We finished 2nd, played CL football and reached Wembley under the former. Under the latter we spent virtually an entire season in the bottom 3. yeah - it's only weird if you take their relevant start points completely out of context though. SMc inherited a squad with major problems, an unambitious board and a club tarred by Alan Pardew's filthy stain and players only here as a stepping stone. KD's situation couldn't have been more different. All we needed was better organisation at the back and we'd have been flying. He smashed KK's legacy and for that I've always hated him. I attended many of those games watching some of the absolute toss he signed, wondering quite how he could dismantle such a fantastic side and, at the same time, find so many jobs for the boys. I've heard lots of mitigation over the years (KK scapped the reserve team, PLC etc etc) but none of it is sufficient for the clusterfuck of a job he did imho. Edit - What Ahmed said, more succinctly.

No, we signed him in the summer of 2011. Rafa left Liverpool in the summer of 2010. Thanks. So, it's conceivable that he was someone they'd been after during Rafa's reign? I don't really see where he'd fit in with a Rafa team as he tends to like hard working players and Marveaux gained a bit of a reputation for being lazy under Pardew. That said, I always thought we should have used him more off the bench. I can't say I ever thought he was lazy. He'd often fail to influence a game but most people would struggle to do that from midfield in a AP side, so I'd forgive him that. Wonder if he might get a bit more game time.......... It's certainly only a positive that we can spring a couple of wildcards on opposition at this stage of the season.

No, we signed him in the summer of 2011. Rafa left Liverpool in the summer of 2010. Thanks. So, it's conceivable that he was someone they'd been after during Rafa's reign? Are you a barrister? Where are you going with this questioning? Hurry up and make your point. Objection.

No, we signed him in the summer of 2011. Rafa left Liverpool in the summer of 2010. Thanks. So, it's conceivable that he was someone they'd been after during Rafa's reign?

Dalglish Ah. Fair enough How long had Rafa been away when KD turned up? i.e: Do we think he was on Rafa's watch list originally?

I've been at a ten for a long while. The Rafa appointment is fantastic but I fear it's 6 games too late. I'm at a 9.5 now but desperately hoping for a Rafa Revolution starting tonight.

When we beat Liverpool to his signature a few years ago, was Rafa their manager?

I was just about to post the exact same thing. 'So you're absolutely delighted then John?'

I didn't want him and didn't rate him but thought the treatment at the end was unprofessional from NUFC to say the least. I've nowhere near the levels of hatred for him that I have for Pardew, Allardyce, Dagliesh, Carver etc. Good luck to him in wherever he goes next.

Also, don't be surprised if he's watched over 70% of our games this season already. Hes strikes me as a very studious bloke. I wouldn't even be surprised if he knows his rough starting 11 already.

Norwich 1-1 Man City Bournemouth 2-0 Swansea Stoke 0-1 Southampton Aston Villa 1-3 Spurs Leicester 1-2 Newcastle

£10 on SMc to go at 10/1. Thanks for being shite Stevo.

Didn't watch it.

I was a bit worried about the jinx of this thread. Thanks Andy. I looked at the field and fancied it so stuck a ton on. Much appreciated.

Injured. Hamstring i think. Yep - it's a hammy.

exactly, just do things right, for once! Agree with this. The longer this goes on, the more wider sympathy there will be for SMc and rightly so.

Not disputing that. It's the timing and the general fit given the shitfest above him and shitfest below him in terms of playing staff. I'd say we're still nailed on to go down even with him.

No - I totally agree. My gut instinct is that it'll be a disaster of an appointment.

Think he's a really good player personally. He's certainly better than a relegation fight every year.

I think we'll go down anyway. There's a massive danger in making a ten game appointment. Benitez doesn't even really put his reputation on the line because, if we stay up, he's held in higher regard and able to command more money from his next employers (if not us) and, if we go down, then he can tell the world what a clusterfuck we are and everyone would be sympathetic to that. That will be the appeal I would think. There's so much fundamentally wrong with NUFC, I maintan that we'll go down. It's an entirely failed institution.

Was always going to be the 'fall guy' but the responsibility for their handling of this AJ incident should go right to the top.

We're clearly trying to do a deal with one of those available managers and are hanging on to SMc incase the deal falls through or we can't get one of the handful of replacements we'd actually want. Worst case for them I guess is pegging SMc and then being rejected by his possible replacements. I'd also guess there being a vacancy strengthens the hand of any applicants in doing a deal as they'll know we're even more desperate.

Silence from the club is deafening.

He was there on Saturday. Was he not on the bench?

He hasn't really though, has he? Gini, Mitro, Mbemba etc were all clearly lined up for whoever they appointed. I'd say Townsend and Shelvey were his signings. Well no, but it is money that has been spent on the squad during his tenure. Of all the things to aim at him, transfer spend is probably a bit unfair given he asked for a commanding CH and a forward and got neither.