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Despite his youngish age and the usual England tax without another purple patch we would be lucky to get beyond 20/25m for him.

He needs a run of games but the injury and the competition in midfield means he's going to struggle to find that without someone getting injured. He just seems a shadow of the player he was you hope it's all due to rust but it may be that he won't be the same dynamic runner he once was. If you look outside of kids being sold and longstaff it's likely him next for me to be sold in midfield but unfortunately cannot see us getting our money back.

What i meant sorry was not getting rid of Wilson and then going for Osula means we stuffed ourselves. If Wilson was peddled or made third choice and more money was spent on a player to offer real competition or something different to Isak would have been better than how it's worked out. Right now or competition/alternative is injured and old and on the decline and soon allowed to leave on a free anyway and the kid isn't trusted by Howe to be effective yet.

I hate how Wallis and gromit Craig Hopes face looks but the one thing I do agree on is go for first 11 players when you recruit so your weaker starting 11 players become your bench. I guess had we not been in a psr world that might have happened more.

Think we have now made a rod for our own backs committing to a youth prospect as third choice. In an ideal world Wilson is told he ain't the main man anymore and becomes 3rd choice and we have a quality second fiddle/ competition for starting. Now we are running with 2 strikers effectively one isn't far enough on the Howe journey to be getting meaningful minutes and our best striker is totally out if form.

I really like what i saw defensively from him saved our arse a few times what I still don't like is his threat from the air in the opposition box and that we seem to persist with him starting our attacking build up from the back. Mentioned a few times ok you want to keep Bruno up the pitch so he isn't always constantly coming for the ball but giving it to BDB who then puts his foot on it holds it holds it holds it who then gives the simple pass to hall who in turn gives it to Gordan who usually has a player in front and behind him at this point is slow and predictable. Not expecting BDB to suddenly learn how to spray a ball all over the park but playing in this way makes him more integral in how we push forward and he doesn't seem good enough for it.

Don't disagree that the winter window isn't where you want to be doing your main business and alot of clubs would want a premium for letting players go mid season however it won't be the case for all players especially those out of favour/needing a fresh start/not signing a new deal the RW is setting such a low bar right now that surely we can do better. Ideally we would find a player who can play RW and forward to mix our play up a bit. Potentially sacking a season off to take stock next summer doesn't seem an option for the trajectory the club wish to go in to keep their best players or maximise their value and attract the bigger sponsorship rates etc

Unless there is an acceptance that this working an a formation shift is needed so we go for say a number 10 it still depends on injuries and form and if Botman comes back. If it remains the same and we don't pick up any massive injuries the only question marks sales wise are on players who are coming to the end of their deal who aren't getting offered contracts. Out of all our players the only one likely to go is trips as it seems the press push the narrative he may want to leave issue is do we get a fee as a loan offer doesn't help us at all as despite his decline he offers something totally different than Tino. I cannot see us moving away from a RW and RCB we could see a player too good to turn down dealwise elsewhere but money is tight we are a schar injury away from Kraft getting regular starts and Murphy and Miggy continue to compete with who can be the most frustrating least effective crown. Maybe just maybe Mitchell is a fan of loans and we tap into that to stretch the funds to more areas. Having a goal scoring midfield player or a player that can play a number 10 (assuming Barnes and Gordan cant) would be nice to vary our play book.

Other than top targets not allowed to go in the winter window there should be no excuses. Mitchell will have been in post months and would have seen the issue first hand. There will always be opportunities to find players heading to the last 6/12/18 months of their contract. We might not raise any more through sales in the winter window but we know from the summer money is there just got to hope we can be clever with the funds we have. Issue as always with going abroad isn't that players aren't good enough it's the Eddie factor of waiting a chunk of games to introduce them which depending on how we are doing results wise may not have time for.

If we had a kid taking his place then no bother but the lack of a replacement means you go out and buy one then you do the math 3 more years of him and a chance to get a fee at some point in that period or he walks on a free and we go out and spend money. Home grown pure profit. I don't rate him or want him around the first 11 but in a psr world he cannot be allowed to go for nothing even if he isn't up to standard.

Probably going to look silly replying here as know nowt about this but surely it will depend how well the club is doing how much it's worth it's debt proposition etc to establish a rate? Or would it be fair to say it's 3% above a certain figure such as bank of England rate. Surely a title challenging side like arsenal and their loans are a better proposition in terms of a % of their value against say Everton who are still very much in the toilet finance and league wise?

No idea whats wrong but been some fairly solid guesses already also on the back of how Eddie replied to the question about contracts is the number of players still playing right now on final year of contract or final 2 years of contract also contributing to the mood in the camp?

If we don't have an option to extend by a year built in I can see him being offered an extension even if we want rid we can't surely let pure ffp home grown money walk for free.

Its hard he's a limited player and a weak link, don't think its a lack of effort or commitment its purely we have evolved as a side and his contribution stands out on the lower side. Your not going to have a team full of super stars FFP has basically killed that for us having players you can call upon to help out when we need it like him, murphy etc is great. It also isnt his fault he gets picked and I do hope no offense to him he either moves on or gets used as a squad player only.

All the years following football I didn't really get the pass back rule but after you laughing at me I googled it. Apologies I wasn't aware it was an enforceable rule. I had though he could control the pass with his foot and then pick the ball up Even more reason why its stupid to pass back to him he can't kick with any sort of accuracy.

Dunno how it can't be any slower as he still looks like he will shit himself when the ball goes back to him. Why can't he pick it up and throw it. Some of his kicks didn't even go out of play and they were back on us.

Loved forcing Harvey to do the arrow celebration so he could do it too. Not quite his brilliant self right now but can't ever say he gives up.

Link up play with him and Tino just doesn't seem right. He can be sloppy at times especially the balls going backwards. Can't fault his output and work rate and selfishness but happy the club are looking to improve that side.

Got to find a place for him as a starter i am sure the commentary said he's only had 7 starts.

Worked tirelessly and run his bollocks off but just not quite clicking at the minute for him.

Am I being thick here he played himself into the game kicking it into play then crossing it so it's not a direct corner

Might be reading too much into it but didn't like seeing strapping around Isaks leg/knee in that training video. We need to be realistic with his mins or we gonna end up without both Isak and Wilson. Hopefully Osula can start getting just some sub mins to ease the burden.

Still think him chasing after Schar and pushing him after the whistle was worse than any squaring up they did.

This is by no means a criticism he gets himself in quite good positions when driving forward and then waits to look to pass and sometimes the move/moment/chance is gone wish he was just slightly more attacking in those areas but what a good player for someone so young.

While we rode our luck and were poor in parts we dug in and got the result the issue is if performances don't pick up is this maintainable? Commentary made a good point we were great at defending but so poor breaking out it was cleared around the penalty area but spurs had players unmarked Iining up outside the box just none of them could finish. I do feel the balls that cut across our own goal were only spurs missing a central striker today away from a heavy defeat. Still glad to Bank the 3 points hope those away on internationals come back unscathed and we go again.