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For the right price I would personally take him he is a very technically gifted player and as I have mentioned before his link up play is excellent and could be just what we need to be more creative comming from the middle I still shudder at the lack of passing ability at times and the lack of a creative direct approach which I think Gudjohnsen would bring. Years of experience and still relatively young and played for SA before ticks alot of boxes for me.

Thing is if your willing to splash the cash you can get the best of both worlds as with the right ammount of money you can get great "here and now" talent who is still in their early 20's. It does not have to be 15-16 year olds nore does it have to be 30-33 year olds past their prime comming in to fill gaps.

That's the kind of stuff NE5 has a field day with. If the manager wants him then so be it. £8m seems a lot though. This is just my personal view that we don't need more fairly slow strikers, however good their technique. We already have Viduka, Owen and Smith. We need an Anelka type IMO. It's not a given either that Mort will just hand over the funds to Sam, he'll probably want to see which way we are heading before handing over major cash. It may also come down to the relationship between Mort and SA as Mort may say "tell me who you would like and we will see what we can do" or he may say "you have a budget of £xmill to spend see what you can get" I know I am obviously simplifying things there but depending on the relationship SA may not even target a gudjohnsen type player.

not forgetting that it is very likely shev will move on either in jan or the summer.

Funny thing is many of the young prospects out there in europe dont always hit the ground running I remember when Ronaldo went to manu for about 15million I thought he wasn't really anything special but obviously with a lot of faith and a consistant approach from the manager the player is undoubtably one of the best midfield players in the league. Its a catch 22 situation you can either buy players already developed and proven and take the risk they wont adapt to the league and/or spunk 10-20 million on them. Or you buy young and try and use the coaching set up to develop them into a starting 11 player and you may have gotten a bargin although there is always the chance that they will never go beyond an ok type player i.e. Dave Nugent.

Would have preferred Gudjohnsen over viduka but obviously he is proud enough not to see Barcelona as a complete failure and wanted to fight on, if the papers are to believed which is probably a waste of time I cannot see Man city interested with just getting Nery Castillo on loan. Also West Ham supposedly have had a bid accepted but declined by the player it could be a great signing as either an option up front on where I see it more like the link between the midfield and strikers much like his chelsea days. Although is 6-8 million too much to spend on a 29/30 year old who really hasn't consistantly played for about 18months.

Diego?? possibly.... I mean I agree with everyone that until maybe this board has 1/2 transfers under their belt you can really pull a quote or two and come to a load of different conclusions. I see nothing wrong with buying for the future rather that buying a player that has to start as they are of the age where they will no longer stand for a bit of bench warming time.

seems to me that some think his comments mean he wants 16/17yr olds that arent very good but may come good with coaching and time to slowly blood in, he may mean more along the lines of those in the 20/22 age bracket those who already have experience but still have alot of time to mature and grow and potentially these sorts of signings can cost alot of money and can be worth while we have had the bad i.e hugo but you can still grab young talent just like man u have done with ronaldo in the past and nani and anderson from this summer.

its just such a relief to be able to say that these days without being sarcastic not so long ago we were all complaining that all we had was baba and carr and that was it. I really dont know how we 1. payed 1.8 million for him and 2. that he ever got a game for chelsea

would be a good addition at the right price (8 mill seems to have been thrown about in the papers) but would obviously seem to indicate the end for shola and probably either owen or extending vidukas contract I would be quite happy going for someone older and trying to get gudjonsson in for about the same money purely due to him being able to play in midfield and as a striker I never exactly ever got excited by an owen crouch partnership

possibly get a left back in for january let baba rot in the basement levels of the ground till his contract is up and then that gives enrique time without pressure to play every game and zoggy can go back to challenging duff (when back) for left wing

10 year head start tbf I can Taylor either becomming really good or just another one of our average plodders I guess its how he is played and how many injuries he gets on the way.

this whole thing is just giving me flash backs to when keegan walked out of the england job pissing down and a poor england showing

very poor Boro team this year even their bright star downing is struggling for any sort of form.

Admin delete this if it isnt allowed but found a good small interview with Barton http://www.shieldsgazette.com/nufc/We39ve-ridden-our-luck-.3494235.jp basically as Given has been in the past very critical about the team but maybe rightly good read at least.

I see it as them trying to say is he a 10 mill keeper.

Very, very true Sorry! he was never going to be our answer to ashley cole but saying that I would assume he cost us peanuts and would play across the back anywhere you wanted him to without a problem and was never a pre madonna by kicking up a fuss if he spent time on the bench either.

how about a mention for arron hughes was no world beater but he was a cheap signing that did the job you told him to without any fuss and when he was called up certainly did a descent job.

Mint, what's the P + P? course That whole post could also be talking about Bellamy. the problem with some of our most "controversial" players was how many games we had to keep the faith and keep playing them before we got that has to start type performance. Where as I think mostly with smith and milner they are the type of players you at least know what you are going to get from them. Still my point stands that we need to have a big enough squad to have players of both types or we need to spend big again and bring players in that show both qualities are alot more rounder than the two extremes I think the bit in bold is particularly unfair on Bellamy I really did like bellamy as a player when he was here and his goal for us against Feyenoord was just excellent however many times I remember watching Bellamy and again this wasn't his whole game but he had electtric pace but alot of his chances he never put them away for us and seen as he was brought in as a striker its a pritty fundamental part of the job. Bellamy was a far better finisher after the first season than you're giving him credit for. he never broke into double figures from 2001-2004 and finally managed it when he was loaned out to celtic with 7 for us and 7 for them which doesn't exactly enspire confidence from one of your main scoring outlets. As Yorkie said for what we paid for him and how he kept us in the champs league he was value for money to a point. A ratio nearing 1 in 3 is pretty good for a second striker, he offered lots more than his goals, and helped Shearer's career no end. granted he did play second fiddle to alan alot of the time and it did work well as a partnership most of the time shearer was loosing yards by the bucket loads and bellamy offered that pace back to the team to allow shearer to be a predator. Like i said I did like Bellamy at least on the field but certainly didn't feel that sad to see him leave either although its a shame he didnt manage to muscel souey out instead.

That whole post could also be talking about Bellamy. the problem with some of our most "controversial" players was how many games we had to keep the faith and keep playing them before we got that has to start type performance. Where as I think mostly with smith and milner they are the type of players you at least know what you are going to get from them. Still my point stands that we need to have a big enough squad to have players of both types or we need to spend big again and bring players in that show both qualities are alot more rounder than the two extremes I think the bit in bold is particularly unfair on Bellamy I really did like bellamy as a player when he was here and his goal for us against Feyenoord was just excellent however many times I remember watching Bellamy and again this wasn't his whole game but he had electtric pace but alot of his chances he never put them away for us and seen as he was brought in as a striker its a pritty fundamental part of the job. Bellamy was a far better finisher after the first season than you're giving him credit for. he never broke into double figures from 2001-2004 and finally managed it when he was loaned out to celtic with 7 for us and 7 for them which doesn't exactly enspire confidence from one of your main scoring outlets. As Yorkie said for what we paid for him and how he kept us in the champs league he was value for money to a point.

yorkie I will give you bernard I guess it all feels a little strange though when he refused to sign a new deal and then when he got brought back into the fold by roeder we all saw ( I use that work loosely) the reason why he had been in limbo for 3-4 seasons.

I was just about to post that. There's no way Roeder could be described as horrible or a cunt really. Out of his depth in the end, some of the shit he gets on here is diabolical. and we used to all be disgusted by some of the chants made towards him by the west ham fans I guess like you say nice guy out of his depth was more like it more than he was this horrible human being.

That whole post could also be talking about Bellamy. the problem with some of our most "controversial" players was how many games we had to keep the faith and keep playing them before we got that has to start type performance. Where as I think mostly with smith and milner they are the type of players you at least know what you are going to get from them. Still my point stands that we need to have a big enough squad to have players of both types or we need to spend big again and bring players in that show both qualities are alot more rounder than the two extremes I think the bit in bold is particularly unfair on Bellamy I really did like bellamy as a player when he was here and his goal for us against Feyenoord was just excellent however many times I remember watching Bellamy and again this wasn't his whole game but he had electtric pace but alot of his chances he never put them away for us and seen as he was brought in as a striker its a pritty fundamental part of the job.

That whole post could also be talking about Bellamy. the problem with some of our most "controversial" players was how many games we had to keep the faith and keep playing them before we got that has to start type performance. Where as I think mostly with smith and milner they are the type of players you at least know what you are going to get from them. Still my point stands that we need to have a big enough squad to have players of both types or we need to spend big again and bring players in that show both qualities are alot more rounder than the two extremes

which is where I was leading to really as I worry that our midfield has lost any edge or creativity there needs to be options to throw on players to graft away for you no worries and there will be times you need to start or put on wild cards which is what robert was famous for basically little to nothing all game then an act of brilliance on the whole though for 10.5 million robert cost us you would have expected really to have a much rounder player in the sense has a creative flair but still has the basic skills to play as a unit and track back , mark and defend where nessacary which sadly was not in his game at all.