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7 at the minute for me based on how poor we are more than 7 points adrift by Jan window is my guess then it's a case of do we push to stay up and spend or not. If we don't spend we go down 4 players minimum needed to get the spine replaced which won't be cheap in an ideal world only 3 of those players today should ever be on the team sheet ever again but won't happen as its too much. Mountain to climb but still doable and still very much in our own hands.

I believe signings will be made dependant on who is available and who will want to come along with where we are in the league, if by some miracle we start doing well I think Jan investment will be minimal if we are bottom 3 I can see us spending more than the 50/60m mentioned in the press.

Looking forward to this thread as well as a few others leaving page 1 to be cast aside with the other false dawns or stuff we want to stick our fingers in our ears and forget about.

50m to spend you put 10m down upfront and rest on installments buy 4 or 5 doing it that way no bother.

Encorporate our name with the new and I will be fine with it. If all our moves are being scrutinised then you would expect us to have to adhere to FFP if we get the money and its reinvested I will stomach it. More than likely if they do go with a hyphenated name we will all still use SJP anyway but helps the balance sheet.

I suppose the negative fan in me is thinking are his comments because Bruce gave him free reign and an easy ride. Late? No bother. Too tired to train? No bother etc etc

bring Wenger out of retirement for a bit

A clean slate would have been easier to do if it all just went the way the consortium wanted it to last yeah Rafa in and all the dross out simples. We keep getting told by the press that this U turn by the prem and the speed and which this all happened has blindsided the consortium a little which seems to be true and they ask for patience and wanting to review what was there. For us its very apparent for them its got to be a calculated risk, rightly or wrongly they feel that Bruce wasnt showing his best for the last 1000 games and he can do so much more when afforded the chance to or at the very least they need something to replace the nothing that is Bruce in order to keep the ship steady. Clearly waving a load of money around doesnt always make things go as quickly as you would like them to.

Said this before if we were midtable and plodding I would say what's the harm and keep him here until we get all the ducks in a row sort of thing and see him bow out. Part of the reason people may seem so desperate to see him gone apart from the terrible football and shocking stats and form is that he is "Ashley's man" The man that wouldnt put his hand in his pocket unless it was yielding a return paid compo for a man and give him such a lucrative contract in terms of reported compo he was scared of Bruce being poached by the big 6 at any time.

If he stays on Sunday and we lose and come end of the season go down by 3 points or goal difference I am not sure "just one more game" will have sounded so great.

Dont feel comfortable with anyone telling me how I should feel about something and there is a thread to discuss the implications of this ownership which I stay clear of.

I think the issue with young up and coming managers like Gerrard and Lampard not to tarnish them all with the same brush but we need reform and reshaping from the ground up I dont see that from someone who hasnt been around, grown a network of contacts and being used to dealing with a regular influx of change window after window (assuming here we will buy every transfer window from now on as we look to move players on an improve the squad). If a DOF comes in and does most of that function and we get a manager in just to manage then I would still want someone with more experience this isnt a side that is regular top 6-8 season on season that needs the final push or bit of sprinkling of quality, while I believe Bruce has us in a false league position due to how bad he is I still think we are a lower mid-table side as a realistic ceiling (injuries dependent).

Guess the priority question goes hand in hand with the other questions how much value is there in January, what position and therefore how desperate situation will we find ourselves in and how much we will be able to ship out to free up space. Will shipping out manage to these people? If it doesn't matter about the dead wood then how many changes is acceptable 3-5? If we were to buy/loan 5 players then it gives us more scope in terms of priority areas. if we wont accept players just hanging around not registered and unable to shift how many can we realistically get rid of in 1 transfer window to make way for new players.

We need a new spine really new centre half, new central midfield player possibly 2 if you want to upgrade both an attacking and defensive one and also a striker.

Take all the time they need its critical and no transfer window at the min although if they go down a DOF model recruitment may not be the Managers issue. The problem is we arent coasting at the min mid table we are at risk of being cut adrift at the foot of the table not sure how much Jones say as care taker would be enough. It's still alot of tough games to get us to Jan. Its hard to make that call bringing in someone now may be a disaster but we all agree we can't go on as we are

I think they need to see who and what is working without Bruce in the picture to see what is needed in Jan ultimately they all need replacing but got to start somewhere

People commenting say around 200 million in the next 3 years based on our reported profits but doesn't take into account any growth of commercial side which will increase that figure depending on who we bring in and for how much. Not sure if shirt and kit deals have get out clauses after 1 season and if there is a desire or plan to do so

While at the minute the answer is everywhere while I don't mind snapping up talent buying where we need it the most would also be a good idea going forward. 1 injured forward and a championship at best centre forward on the books isn't good enough. Hope those long contracts offered out to the likes of shelvey don't slow us down

Sell all you want no player should be irreplaceable the difference i hope is we sell we buy just as good or better. The bigger sales fees we got over the years we never then spent that on 1 in 1 out replacement or better. It went on a poorer player his agent fees, wages etc Once cheap dead wood goes however we manage to do that spend on quality editions

We are no longer shackled by money in the sense sacking a manager due to compo and how that will impact budgets is no longer our problem. While i don't want a revolving door of managers in this instance sack Bruce now and then if manager 1 doesn't work start again we are so early doors while we don't want to waste the chance to rebuild let's face it bad decisions are made by everyone difference here I hope is that I hope this ownership just brush it off and move on.

I wonder what you do with deadwood, pay up their contract to let them go? Offer them up for dirt cheap? Loan out and supplement wages for life of contract? Deregister the player to free up squad places. When your rich it doesn't matter except helps balance the books for FFP but needs to be done to make way for possibly 3 or 4 quality Jan additions?

Was thinking more of what we were doing but on a grander better organised scale, buy players for the areas we need (to begin with thats in alot of areas) and possibly put up with "stepping stone" style signings as they are the ones that will first want to come as we cant offer european football as we can offer them bigger wages and chance to get in the shop window. Hopefully if/when success then comes after season X we then look to just improve and move on older/less effective players and dont need to worry about the calibre of player that would turn us down as we can go for anyone but thats not day one or season one. Difference is if we sell a player on for 30m I hope that then means we replace them with at least a new 30m or more player meaning over time you do a Leicester style buy and sell to improve the squad. We aint buying 6/7/8 players a window we will have to put up with a big rebuild with mistakes along the way (be that wrong manager or wrong signing) its the nature of the beast but that wont hopefully be then held as a reason to not brush yourself off and move on.

loans require loan fees and the money is gone lack of squad space when we have been willing to leave players without squad numbers is just an excuse, no more signings is just another nail in the coffin.

Going to the game but then pointing out your displeasure does get more exposure than a website participant sitting here saying the players, manager owner, league are cunts. Its difficult as you still went and therefore you were a bum of seat which masks unrest and unhappiness as the camera pans around the stadium and continues to see bums on seats neglecting the obvious that we have had shite served and shoveled down our throats for over a decade. No right or wrong answers I am afraid one upping or snapping at each other doesn't help a divided fan base is alot easier to control and this has been so prolonged of a shit show I dont blame people for just accepting their lot in the hope one day some how it gets better.

I hate him but he has such poor way with words if he said something like " we know its a tough league and we look to improve year on year we want to push on and get into the top 10" or " we know that the league is tough and the places at the top are currently beyond our reach but our aim is to be competitive with everyone as we look to move up the league and be in the mix with the clubs consistently challenging in the top half" everything is just so negative even his positive spins seem like BS or negative still, glad he isnt taking training sessions as I wouldnt feel confident beating a paper bag to the bin with him in charge.