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See. that's the kind of mindset you need to break. It is the same sort of mindset we have with some of our support who thing Juan Pablo Angel was good. He's average.

No disrespect but I've found that people from these backward Eastern European and East Med countries, judge everything by Serie A. You're only saying this because he did well in Italy. I'd rather have Souness and Saunders back than Sven and Turd Grip. Which countries are you referring to as backward? And its not as if they're judging by success in the Greek first division, is it?

No it doesn't. Youve got awesome talent up front, if Owen and Martins can play together, that is, but on paper, that is very impressive. Midfield - Parker, Emre, Duff - meh. Dyer - double meh. Defence? Taylor looks like the new Maldini in waiting compared to the rest of them. Keeper - yes. Milner is a good player, too.

McCann will hopefully be off. Don't forget Steve Davis in midfield ( he won't be sold in the summer), and also - and here's a tip for next season - Craig Gardner is the latest kid to have moved up from the academy, he's going to be a decent player. Also, Gary Cahill in centre of defence. That boy will play for England. If clubs like us, you, Everton and Spurs don't start mounting proper challenges soon, then we may as well all cancel our Sky subs and go and watch non league instead.

Halsey. Cunt.

Honest question, can you see him now releasing the full potential your club has with the new owners? Yes. The thing to remember is that MON is just one side of the things that have changed. Since Ellis went, they have gone about picking the club up, giving it a good shake, and changing pretty much the whole thing from top to bottom. Absolutely everything has either changed, or is in the process of changing. Outside the managers at the big four, I can't think of a better man for the manager's job than MON. He's not infallible, he's dropped a few bollocks this season, but the man has got things right by and large. His signings will settle next season, Petrov is looking much better of late, Young looks like a quality prospect, Maloney is a good prospect too. If he can buy sensibly, a bit of experience in the positions we need strengthening over the summer, then we'll do well next year. I don't necessarily want him to go out and spunk 50m on huge names, I want him to strengthen the squad with some very good players - so that we can evolve slowly, improve consistently whilst the club is changing. We had the EC winning team with the cup on the pitch before Sheff United the other day, and I can honestly say it was the most positive day I've had there in decades, seeing the achievements from the past and what we can aspire to, but also thinking forwards ... the optimism at the moment is absolutely incredible.

Everybody thought O'Leary was the dogs bollocks when you got him too Not really. oh yes they did. In the frame to replace Alex Ferguson etc etc blah blah blah No, no they didn't.

I don't know. It was the most southern sounding thing i could think of on the hop, that ugly fat bint The Badger on telly was putting me off. Watford is a good few hours north of me! well sorta north west anyway! Which Watford? Elton John's Watford, or the Watford after which Watford gap gets its name?

I don't know. It was the most southern sounding thing i could think of on the hop, that ugly fat bint The Badger on telly was putting me off. Brummie royalty tbh

I see a few Spurs players (including Lennon who doesn't even have the excuse of coming from a hot country) are wearing gloves to protect themselves from that vicious, mid May London cold. Oh, and great player Berbatov

Blackburn edged Boro and Bolton as the worst team I've seen play at VP this season. Except for us, naturellement.

Oh well. I'm very, very glad he is our "average" manager, and so is pretty much every other Villa fan on the planet.

Cheques only valid for 6 months, innit. I trust Parky's word. EDIT oh, hang on, post dated. I should read threads properly. Nah, i'll accept his word of honour. *Within days of the start of the season MON gets hit by a car and the rich owner has a heart attack.* *Shortly after, Souness spotted at VP*

Cheques only valid for 6 months, innit. I trust Parky's word. EDIT oh, hang on, post dated. I should read threads properly. Nah, i'll accept his word of honour.

The bet is only for Parky. I'm trying to test his optimism. No matter who you appoint (and we knew this would be the case, and were proved right, when we appointed God's man on earth last summer), next season will be about getting the club in the shape he wants it, and consolidation. It'll take time. Possibly forever if he doesn't make shipping out garbage like Bramble, Ramage and Carr, shirking piss takers like Dyer and Duff, and underachievers like Emre and Parker his first priority. Ok £50 it is. OK, you're on. The Bonk shall be our witness. My word is my bond sweetie. Should be fun. Paypal, cheque or cash is fine, in case you were wondering.

The bet is only for Parky. I'm trying to test his optimism. No matter who you appoint (and we knew this would be the case, and were proved right, when we appointed God's man on earth last summer), next season will be about getting the club in the shape he wants it, and consolidation. It'll take time. Possibly forever if he doesn't make shipping out garbage like Bramble, Ramage and Carr, shirking piss takers like Dyer and Duff, and underachievers like Emre and Parker his first priority. Ok £50 it is. OK, you're on. The Bonk shall be our witness.

Strictly speaking, true.

The bet is only for Parky. I'm trying to test his optimism. No matter who you appoint (and we knew this would be the case, and were proved right, when we appointed God's man on earth last summer), next season will be about getting the club in the shape he wants it, and consolidation. It'll take time. Possibly forever if he doesn't make shipping out garbage like Bramble, Ramage and Carr, shirking piss takers like Dyer and Duff, and underachievers like Emre and Parker his first priority.

Klose's gannin neewhere Signed a new contract last week, didnt he? I reckon Toni would be the best suited for the English game.

We got to 7th under Roeder with a totally demoralised side in danger of relegation. There is no reason we can't challenge for top 4 next year. Yeah, fair enough. I suppose I was just assuming that we're going to have a couple years of rebuilding ahead of us. All this stuff about re-building is oft regurgitated on here and yes it has its place....Tell me how much rebuilding had Pompey done when they were 4th in the first 1/3 of the season? None. That means nothing, tbh. We were 3rd at one point and hovered around places 3-6 for a while, it means nish. The only thing that matters is the place at the end of the season. FWIW, the top four are light years ahead of the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Everton. Spurs are closest to catching up, but i reckon it is going to take one of the top four to actively screw up and drop out as much as it is about another team stepping up. I honestly don't see the cause for thinking Newcastle are the best placed to challenge, seems like boundless optimism to me. Certainly compared to, say, Spurs (much as i dislike the idea of bigging up Spurs), when you're on course for a bottom half of the table finish. ....and what would happen if Ronaldo or Henry or Drogba we're missing all next season? Ring any bells? If my granny pissed through a cock, she'd be my grandad. And even if you'd had Owen all season, you'd have had that shite defence still. We had to borrow a tracksuit bottomed Eastern European mentalist from Crystal Palace as we didn't have a proper goalkeeper for a chunk of this season. What if we'd had a proper goalkeeper? If this, if that, it counts for nowt at the end of the season. I do like a bit of optimism though so I'll bet you 50 of your English pounds that Villa finish above Newcastle again next season.

Any logic behind that or just taking a wild guess? If it's wrong tell us why. You said it, so the burden of proof is surely on you to prove it, not him to disprove it. *adjusts wig, fiddles with gavel*

We got to 7th under Roeder with a totally demoralised side in danger of relegation. There is no reason we can't challenge for top 4 next year. Yeah, fair enough. I suppose I was just assuming that we're going to have a couple years of rebuilding ahead of us. All this stuff about re-building is oft regurgitated on here and yes it has its place....Tell me how much rebuilding had Pompey done when they were 4th in the first 1/3 of the season? None. That means nothing, tbh. We were 3rd at one point and hovered around places 3-6 for a while, it means nish. The only thing that matters is the place at the end of the season. FWIW, the top four are light years ahead of the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Everton. Spurs are closest to catching up, but i reckon it is going to take one of the top four to actively screw up and drop out as much as it is about another team stepping up. I honestly don't see the cause for thinking Newcastle are the best placed to challenge, seems like boundless optimism to me. Certainly compared to, say, Spurs (much as i dislike the idea of bigging up Spurs), when you're on course for a bottom half of the table finish.

Precisely, and doesn't that prove the point that different people measure it by different things, and that they relate most to things they've seen? I've seen with my own eyes my club win the League and the European Cup. Does it bother me that it was before 1992? Nope. Is it lessened by the fact it was before 1992? Nope. A 20 yr old Villa fan would have a different outlook entirely, probably, but that's not really surprising. Tbh I think we are saying the same thing in different ways! I think you're probably right, tbh

Precisely, and doesn't that prove the point that different people measure it by different things, and that they relate most to things they've seen? I've seen with my own eyes my club win the League and the European Cup. Does it bother me that it was before 1992? Nope. Is it lessened by the fact it was before 1992? Nope. A 20 yr old Villa fan would have a different outlook entirely, probably, but that's not really surprising.