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I honestly think he would stay, but I 100% don't trust the fat fucking miser to do what it takes to keep him. Toys will be out of the pram because of the relegation and he'll blame everyone but himself.

Ugh, another one?

Yep. I get he wants experience. But Steven Taylor, FFS?! I thought Lascelles was solid, if unspectacular, when he had to come into the team. Seems to lead and organise well, plus he wins everything in the air. Dropping him for that fist pumping disaster zone, was a terrible decision. Just from the few games we've seen of him, he's far better than Saylor. Experience or not he has to play over him but i get the feeling it'll be Chancel and Colo this weekend for some reason. No chance, Colo has twisted his bullshit again and in an attempt to protect his fragile pea-sized heart he won't play again this season. Ah, well not too bothered about that. Chancel and Jamaal is it. He's been on the verge of a return for a while but keeps being omitted, clearly lost heart and doesn't want to be involved in the fight, plus he's not had his annual holiday jaunt to Argentina this year so is probably feeling a little homesick. He might be better than Lascelles but he doesn't have half the heart or fight in him. Neither do most the other players. To be honest i think we've being fooling ourselves a bit, these players aren't just gutless, they're not very good footballers either. Most of our players are bang average with a few outstanding performances thrown in when the going wasn't so tough but are clearly worse than the sum of their parts, mostly due to the fact they're an improper sum that doesn't fit together but also because they are fucking cowards and none of them have the ability to gee any of the others up. We have no leaders to grab a game by the balls and do something. We're not a team just a bunch of heartless individuals bar the odd one or two that care but aren't good enough. Thanks Ashley you fat useless fuck.

Yep. I get he wants experience. But Steven Taylor, FFS?! I thought Lascelles was solid, if unspectacular, when he had to come into the team. Seems to lead and organise well, plus he wins everything in the air. Dropping him for that fist pumping disaster zone, was a terrible decision. Just from the few games we've seen of him, he's far better than Saylor. Experience or not he has to play over him but i get the feeling it'll be Chancel and Colo this weekend for some reason. No chance, Colo has twisted his bullshit again and in an attempt to protect his fragile pea-sized heart he won't play again this season. Ah, well not too bothered about that. Chancel and Jamaal is it. He's been on the verge of a return for a while but keeps being omitted, clearly lost heart and doesn't want to be involved in the fight, plus he's not had his annual holiday jaunt to Argentina this year so is probably feeling a little homesick. He might be better than Lascelles but he doesn't have half the heart or fight in him.

Clearly has the ability but not the application, has allowed the malaise around him to become the accepted norm unchallenged and a lot of us had him as captain material early in the season. It's a wonder the Dutch team are so bad right now with attitudes like this.

Yep. I get he wants experience. But Steven Taylor, FFS?! I thought Lascelles was solid, if unspectacular, when he had to come into the team. Seems to lead and organise well, plus he wins everything in the air. Dropping him for that fist pumping disaster zone, was a terrible decision. Just from the few games we've seen of him, he's far better than Saylor. Experience or not he has to play over him but i get the feeling it'll be Chancel and Colo this weekend for some reason. No chance, Colo has twisted his bullshit again and in an attempt to protect his fragile pea-sized heart he won't play again this season.

He was probably aiming for a throw in tbf. Yeah it was Colback from the kick off and Sammy who scored in 7 seconds, 2014 vs Spuds.

Hoofing it from the halfway line to their 'keeper is fine, just don't dare take it into the box and have a genuine shot at goal or lose it, that's unforgivable!

We're 19th in the league and struggling for goals, meanwhile he's tearing players a new arsehole and scoring for fun because someone knows how to use him. How is this even a topic for debate? Smh.

Can't imagine Norwich getting much, maybe a point against Watford Possibly only 3 points for Sunderland (Norwich A) We need to win 3 at least. Can't see 3 wins from that fixture list. It may be my Sunday morning negativity but I can see Norwich getting a win v Watford and draws v Sunderland, Man U & Everton. I can see Sunderland scraping a win today and against Watford with draws v Norwich, Chelsea & Everton. That would therefore mean we would need to win 4 and draw 1 of our remaining games. Never happening. There's no way that both are picking up that sort of form, mind. As crap as we are, lets not forget why they are both still fighting relegation too. Agreed, I can understand the negativity surrounding us for our form but just because we're so bad that doesn't make other teams suddenly start to get better. The mackems will be resoundly beaten today. That's not helping my Sunday morning headache, man. SORRY!!! I actually meant resoundingly tbh

Can't imagine Norwich getting much, maybe a point against Watford Possibly only 3 points for Sunderland (Norwich A) We need to win 3 at least. Can't see 3 wins from that fixture list. It may be my Sunday morning negativity but I can see Norwich getting a win v Watford and draws v Sunderland, Man U & Everton. I can see Sunderland scraping a win today and against Watford with draws v Norwich, Chelsea & Everton. That would therefore mean we would need to win 4 and draw 1 of our remaining games. Never happening. There's no way that both are picking up that sort of form, mind. As crap as we are, lets not forget why they are both still fighting relegation too. Agreed, I can understand the negativity surrounding us for our form but just because we're so bad that doesn't make other teams suddenly start to get better. The mackems will be resoundly beaten today. That's not helping my Sunday morning headache, man. SORRY!!!

Can't imagine Norwich getting much, maybe a point against Watford Possibly only 3 points for Sunderland (Norwich A) We need to win 3 at least. Can't see 3 wins from that fixture list. It may be my Sunday morning negativity but I can see Norwich getting a win v Watford and draws v Sunderland, Man U & Everton. I can see Sunderland scraping a win today and against Watford with draws v Norwich, Chelsea & Everton. That would therefore mean we would need to win 4 and draw 1 of our remaining games. Never happening. There's no way that both are picking up that sort of form, mind. As crap as we are, lets not forget why they are both still fighting relegation too. Agreed, I can understand the negativity surrounding us for our form but just because we're so bad that doesn't make other teams suddenly start to get better. The mackems will be resoundly beaten today.

I missed the match yesterday and said 9 baring in mind results around us and never expecting anything from the Southampton game in the first place. After watching what unfolded yesterday I can catagorically put us at a 10 I've never seen such a half hearted, half arsed, couldn't give a shit attitude towards a football match as bad as that. All 3 goals were fucking pathetic, I didn't think we could get much worse but they were playing like a death row 11. Absolutely embarrassing and bar one or two, none of them should be allowed to play professional football ever again.

It's not entirely his decision though, that's the point. I'd imagine he is still intent on keeping us up this year, he's a winner and not even contemplating relegation yet. If/when that's confirmed he MAY make his intentions clear. It would be funny to watch Charney et al squirm if he did have intentions of staying.

I hope that was his last game for us, pathetic excuse for a footballer who has stolen a living for far too long, would probably struggle in league 1 fucking useless prick!

Clearly wounded by the results, yeah he's not the brightest spark and seems pretty clueless on why it's not working but at least he gives a shit, could do with more of out gutless bunch showing that kind of hurt, we might actually start fighting back at some point.

This is all I've been thinking recently, they're a different (better) side since he left, coincidence?

I've heard on the grapevine that we've never beaten them at home since they got promoted.

I'm still at a firm 9, I don't think anyone can be a 10 with it still being mathematically possible to survive. Today was never a must win, any point would have been a bonus point and as much as I wanted to see Pardew lose to death I'm actually thankful they beat Norwich today and kept us in distance. Looking at the remaining games I would say out of the three of us we have the slight easier run. I don't have any confidence that these lot can win another game now but I have hope that something will click. We need wholesale changes to get a result though, drop the dross, at this point in time I genuinely believe players like Saivet, Gouffran and Oberwang couldn't possibly do any worse!

This. Very much this. We're a stepping stone, and it has now turned out we're a cowpat. Did that once as a kid and regretted it, I learned. http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-12-2014/hKpXJt.gif

That's twice today I've agreed with you Ron

Agreed, I can see why some are calling for players to be dropped, but for whom? Imagine the uproar if Oberwang was starting? I am sure Rafa has his plan and an idea of his substitutions and he's made me scratch my head more than once, but he's proven he's much more intelligent when it comes to football than I, so I'll see how this pans out. What would anyone else have done differently? Genuine question.

Yeah I thought I was in some alternate reality where actual footballing skill and productivity actually count for something. Stupid, I know!

WHAT ABOUT THAT MISTAKE AGAINST MAN U THOUGH *licks lips* I forgot he gets the same measuring stick as HBA, but Colback and Gouffran can give away set plays and mistimed tackles that result in goals all the time so long as they look like they're "working hard".

100% would have him back and starting in a flash, showed more in his brief cameos than most of our lot have shown in years, badly mistreated in his time here, still cannot get my head round the fact no one could see the untapped potential the lad had. No world beater but he was solid.