Mattoon

I know he's a knob but I can't help but love the guy sometimes.

Me too but tbf it should say Ashley not Charnley, he should be gone anyway.

Best thing we can hope for is Rafa stays, brings us straight back up and Sunderland finally flush without the obligitory 6 points we gift them every year and we don't have to see them again for a long while.

Haven't enjoyed football since Hughton was here tbh. The 2011-2012 season had its moments obviously but still felt like a dark cloud was cast over the club. Absolutely this, the enjoyment has been slowly drained from me, peaking at willing us to lose under Pardew. Rada made me feel again but I still didn't enjoy it, it's been draining and a chore to watch/follow for a long while. Can't remember what it's like to actually enjoy football.

Was gutted on Saturday after that pish performance, felt like that was it. Then I let hope creep back in that somehow there might still be a chance to claw our way out. Now I'm just angry, angry that we've got relegated again, angry that people like Charnley have been and continue to be allowed to hollow out and destroy a once proud club, angry that Pardew, Charver and then McClaren were allowed to to manage our club, angry that Rafa was brought in so late in the day when hope was all but gone, angry that Ashley cares for nothing but his fat pockets and tat emporium, but mostly angry that we've been relegated for a second time under this useless oaf at the expense of a bunch of paedophile supporters lording it up over us. Fuck Charnley, fuck Carr, Fuck Concur and mostly Fuck Ashley, I hope they all burn.

Well there goes all hope, queue Fat Sam parking the bus for the next 55 minutes.

yes As in "no". Norwich need another goal or two to go above us, we have 1 better GD right now.

Need Everton to score first or it'll be lights out, no fight whatsoever

The BBC man, terrible fact finding "...could be relegated on Tuesday..." I think you'll find it's today, Wednesday and "...is for Sunderland to get a maximum of a point at home to Everton and at Watford on Sunday..." that would put them on equal points with us if we win but with a far superior goal difference so we'll still be down. KK though, can't help but love the guy, went in too easy on McClaren though, the guy deserves to shoulder a lot of the blame.

I'm more worried about Ashley binning him than him wanting to leave I think the former is the more likely than the latter.

if there's ever been a moment where ashley has an epiphany it should be this, there's literally no better option than them offering benitez a blank cheque and saying "please run the football club for us, we have no idea how to do it, little mike will do whatever you tell him" He's not capable of epiphany or contrition and if Rafa does stay it'll just end badly. That's not to say I don't want him to its just I'm of the mentality that unless there's wholesale change I can't be excited about literally anything NUFC Yeah, I'm mean I'm not really expecting Ashley to do that, it's just what you might expect a normal human being to do. This is it 100% for me, if they want to save what little is left of NUFC then they need to pull out all the stops to keep Rafa and have him run the club the way a club should be run. If our worst fears are to materialise and it's business as usual with Benitez being asked to leave/not being begged to stay then they'll destroy what little was left and drive us off a cliff. Only time will tell but if Ashley values his ownership of the club then he has to see this is last chance saloon, for the club and it's supporters.

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I'd like to think (always gets me in trouble) that the signing of Benitez was the regime realising that a group of players can only be as good as the man in charge. It wouldn't surprise me if they brought some no-mark in but they need to choose carefully if not Rafa, they must recognise this by now.

I've barely even mustered the effort to watch us on the TV, I have been that disenchanted with the club. Rafa gave me some passion and hope back, I felt gutted on Saturday and wasn't a pleasant person to be around but I was fine the next day. It was more the disappointment that I felt for Benitez than anything else. If Benitez stays then I won't care a jot what league were in, I'm still watching Newcastle United play football and I might actually get to witness a few wins next season. If it's not Rafa then I'm not sure I'll bother at all other than a few fleeting glances at the score and the table.

As much as I agree with this and we should let them rot for what has happened I'm afraid that would cause a poisonous atmosphere and be counterproductive to what we want to achieve.

This, he's maticulous in everything he does, he won't sit on his laurels or allow anyone else to do so, if he wants to stay he'll let it be known straight away along with a documented plan of what needs to happen and how and he'll want it decided asap.

Unless it's Rafa and with a statement of intent I'm done, I can't take another summer of silence while watching us be asset stripped under the safe hands of Peter bloody Beardsley.

Can we have Alan Rickman, David Bowie or even Prince back in place of this salad dodger please?

Can imagine Ashley binning him off and slapping a gagging order on him then blaming him for leaving.

Best outcome now is Rafa stays, we go the whole season in the Championship unbeaten meanwhile Pardew's Palace, Fat Sam and the Paedo army and the inbred smoggies all get relegated.

He should be one of the first out of the club, along with Charnley and Moncur. Absolutely right. A chairman, Benitez and a hand full of scouts, why do we need so many on the board? Sack them all off and pay Benitez what he wants to rebuild, simple.

Time for this guy to go, save a wage, let Rafa have free reign, as it makes sense it probably won't happen like.

The table says it got worse!

The Championship is no better than it was the last time we went down. Possibly, but we've no heart, or the experience we had then, in this squad. We said in 2009 that we had a bunch of gutless, useless players and would never come back up. I think we've got a core of a few players that would really do a job in the Championship. One thing for certain, I'd rather be in the championship with Rafa than the premiership with Fat Sam. Guaranteed Sunderland will be baying for blood next season and 100% they'll go down without the guaranteed points from us.

We're done, dead and buried, just finish the season now ffs. Thanks Rafa, you tried your best but at the end of the day the players just weren't good enough, only Ashley and Charnley to blame for that. I hope Rafa stays but don't blame him if he runs a mile from this club at the first opportunity.