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I had us sitting 14th too, albeit not by many points, it's going to be really tight at the bottom with what run ins some of those teams have, I had Leicester just missing out to Man City who clinch it after mauling us closely followed by Arsenal and Tottenham. I put us to lose the derby too but it wasn't enough to save the Mackems.

McCormick is a prick for what he did and rightly got sent down/did his time. Should he be punished for it forever? If you ask the family of the people that died no doubt they'd say yes but there has to be a point where someone is classed as rehabilitated. He did something stupid whilst under the influence, thereby of diminished capacity, not that it's an excuse, just to highlight the difference in cases here. What Johnson has done was premeditated and went on for some time, he had ample opportunity to think "you know, this is wrong I'm stopping it now.". The cases are completely different and equally horrific, however mentally I see what Johnson did as worse, if McCormick has gotten drunk on purpose with the intent of smashing into someone then you'd have a case.

I'm with Odin on this one, never been a huge fan of Moyes, like I said when Pardew was here I'd take him over what we've got but he seems like another manager on his way down rather than up. Wouldn't mind giving Rogers another shot but if we could get Rafa that would be a no brainer. All stuff of dream though really as the pie man won't be getting rid of McClaren, not a chance.

Unipolar?

With how bipolar our performances are it's hardly surprising people's perceptions of our chances of going down are equally bipolar. Right now I'm at a firm 6 borderline 7, unless we can do what we've struggled to do for a couple of years now and turn the Mackems over at home and put some "easy on paper" matches away I think we'll go down with barely a whimper. As it stands I think there is enough time and quality to put us straight, but with McClaren at the helm? I'm not too sure.

My understanding is that McClaren wanted to sign a new CB but was told he couldn't. http://www.themag.co.uk/assets/lee-charnley-thumbs-up-newcastle-united-nufc-650x400.jpg There's 2 Charnleys in that picture. Is it spot the difference? I can only see the missing glasses?

Can see Ashleyout.com coming back into the fray after some quiet time.

Still only won 4 out of 13 games though. Sorry, to be clear, I meant recently as opposed to the season as a whole, obviously we've gotten much better at home in the past 6 weeks or so.

Don't we usually get beat after we've been away on these trips? I remember Pardew taking us on at least one warm weather camp that led to us looking completely shite aye.

Clearly it's more than just the coaching, we look a very different side at home and you get the feeling we could give anyone a game, away from home we look like a beleaguered and discombobulated squad of misfits blindly fondling around towards relegation. Psychologically we look fucked!

With this clown in charge we will absolutely get turned over by the fucking mackems again with FSA in charge, he'll grind an horrific result out against us and probably send us down. Something needs to be done now before its too late.

http://news.ladbrokes.com/football/premier-league/why-newcastle-boss-will-be-gone-before-man-utd-man-gets-sacked.html So Ladbrokes are speculating he'll get the home games against AFCB and the Mackems before making a decision on his future. Lose those two and the Barcelona team won't get us out of relegation trouble, what's the fucking point in that?

It's almost like a battered wife, having been beaten by her spouse 20 times in the last year claiming her husband has one more chance to make things right. It's not gonna happen, you know what he's like now, why put yourself through further torment, ffs.

I very much doubt they'd use that defense like. It would be total speculation, but possibly the proof in those texts only shows that 'something' happened and he's claimed that it's a kiss. I assume the defence will be 'he didn't do, there's no evidence to prove he did'. The defence will be more manipulative towards the girl. 'You admired him, and when you met up with him you were hoping for more than a kiss and the defendant didn't go further than that did he? Because he never went further you felt hurt by him and you wanted to hurt him like he hurt you by saying these things to get him into trouble, didn't you?' Stuff like that. It's pretty hard in cases like this where there is plenty of evidence to suggest it did happen, then defense will be aiming to get a degree of doubt into the minds of the jury at the expense of the girl. She has already said that she admired him, is a big fan, and never wanted to tell anyone about it, so they will just play on that hoping she turns her back on the claims. You'd think that being a minor they won't be allowed to cross examine her directly, however they can bring her statement into question and put an element of doubt in the juries mind with those questions.

He's blatantly not going anywhere and they'll be relying on the 18 day break for any ire to subside rather than use the time effectively in developing a plan to avoid relegation, typical Ashley. We're dicing with the drop and it's nothing less than he deserves.

I very much doubt they'd use that defense like. It would be total speculation, but possibly the proof in those texts only shows that 'something' happened and he's claimed that it's a kiss. I assume the defence will be 'he didn't do, there's no evidence to prove he did'. Exactly, he's only admitted to meeting her and kissing her because there's solid proof in the text messages, anything else is pure conjecture you'd think?

Maybe we should change the thread title to "Adam Johnson - fucked lol"

I'd imagine that the defence would be she went there with full knowledge of his intentions, however she's a young, impressionable, starstruck fan and what he's done is tantamount to force.

Yeah I read it as he's done what he's accused of, they just didn't go into detail with the young girl, she's intimated at what happened though. Sounds more one sided than I originally thought too, more than it being mutual, more like him being extremely pushy to the point it was "awkward". Sickening.

....so now someone sees the pattern other than "deluded Geordies".

Nah, wait. Aye this is just starting, nowhere near vinegar strokes yet, wait for maximum impact.

But with the huge sums of money available next season the fee for sacking McClaren is small change in comparison, there's got to be a point even a penny pinching fat miser like Ashley sees this.

Trouble is Keegan is one of a kind where Newcastle United are concerned, he was literally the perfect fitting glove, it'll always feel like he has unfinished business here and that's what's frustrating.

Fatty has been dealing with things a little differently this season and after spending circa £80m on players this season and if rumours are to be believed, without relegation clauses included, you'd have to imagine that fat arse will be twitching right now. We all know FMA's propensity to royally fuck things up though and back his subservient employees to the hilt, but how far does that loyalty stretch when there's so much money at stake this season? It could go either way, I'm hoping he does the right thing when this is clearly not getting any better and time is quickly running out but I'm not convinced he's got it in him to make a sensible decision. I think if we lose the next game he might sack him, no real idea why, just a random feeling/hope. The worst decision he could make, other than keeping him! Do it now and we've got 18 days to sort something out, don't do it after the next game when it's one game less with less time to sort the fucking team out. We're run by a bunch of clowns man! Bang on, do it now and give the new utter idiot whos completely unsuited to it a chance to look at the team Honestly why is it so hard for them to just appoint a decent manager. Only NUFC can hire a manager that's so shit he doesn't even give you a bounce. But yeah, we totally need to give the next unsuitable manager time to find new ways of making us lose.

Fatty has been dealing with things a little differently this season and after spending circa £80m on players this season and if rumours are to be believed, without relegation clauses included, you'd have to imagine that fat arse will be twitching right now. We all know FMA's propensity to royally fuck things up though and back his subservient employees to the hilt, but how far does that loyalty stretch when there's so much money at stake this season? It could go either way, I'm hoping he does the right thing when this is clearly not getting any better and time is quickly running out but I'm not convinced he's got it in him to make a sensible decision. I think if we lose the next game he might sack him, no real idea why, just a random feeling/hope. The worst decision he could make, other than keeping him! Do it now and we've got 18 days to sort something out, don't do it after the next game when it's one game less with less time to sort the fucking team out. We're run by a bunch of clowns man!