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Thing is, if we do appoint someone, whoever it is, Dennis Wise is still in charge really. We're not going to appoint a manager.
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We've still got almost an entire season to play. You're happy for us to drop points and edge towards relegation I take it? As long as they're forced out and have no chance to recover from their mistakes... The next few weeks of matches hardly bare much significance in the grand scheme of things. It might not seem like that but, they dont. The priory must be imo for the fans to show in every way possible, and relentlessley, that we want Ashley & co out. What is football about? Wheres the romance? Is it purley a business? Are we all fans so we can have look at nice stats about net spend etc, no I cant think about a replacement, and cant bare Ashley & co bieng here any longer... It is an extreme example I will admit but who are you to say those points don't matter - what if end up getting relegated with the difference between us and the team above being only a point or two? That would set the club back more than this debacle has. You're the one not looking at the bigger picture... I can understand you wanting Ashley out but not at the expense of the club appointing another manager. I don't know why you'd not want both to happen if possible. Imo the whole board are a con, and Nufc are discredited a fair bit as long as theyre their. And its just my opinion that a game or two of boycotting would not send us into relegation & we have good enough players to stay up.
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Same.
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Is it for sure he will be in charge v Hull?
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Imo The big picture tells you - the next few games dont bare much relevance in terms of the Ashley situation. We boycott Hull game - there is only 20,000 max there, we lose, it puts Ashley in such a predicament. It backs him in a corner, & is the most ultimate 'we will not accept you here' ever. We lose (?potenitally), Ashleys position is pretty much untenable after losing so many customers, chances of him selling rocket, and potentially a take over happens. Massive lift for everyone, and weve got good enough players to kick on from there. Bloody hell man, look at our start under Allardyce, looking good, unbeaten, but look how it ended. I understand everyone POV though, its a hard situation. You wanna get behind the players aswell, and maybe show defiance in a different way. And maybe it will work. Imo Nufc lose a fair bit of credibility as long as they are there.
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We've still got almost an entire season to play. You're happy for us to drop points and edge towards relegation I take it? As long as they're forced out and have no chance to recover from their mistakes... The next few weeks of matches hardly bare much significance in the grand scheme of things. It might not seem like that but, they dont. The priory must be imo for the fans to show in every way possible, and relentlessley, that we want Ashley & co out. What is football about? Wheres the romance? Is it purley a business? Are we all fans so we can have look at nice stats about net spend etc, no I cant think about a replacement, and cant bare Ashley & co bieng here any longer...
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Bugger a replacement, we simply need to force them out before its possible. Not even contemplating one (apart from the obvious).
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It doesn't really matter what they've said in interviews, it's what is in his contract that he's signed that will matter in court which is where this is likely to go. So they really are slimy b*stards
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A bucket load of 'FACT... ' banners please... Utter, utter shambles, get the f*ck out the club.
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Bob, you seriously don't believe that do you, honestly? If anything I think KK wanted the best of both worlds, he was very complimentary about Jonas et al and seemed excited about the kind of talent the new set-up could find him, while I'm sure he'd have liked some of his own targets brought in but I don't for one minute think that included Henry, Lampard and Ronaldinho, players he actually laughed at at the end of last season as dreamworld signings and that fans should not expect such players. Again it points to the sale of Milner for me. I was exaggerating to make a point. To put it better - Keegan wanted ready made players with an established reputation. The Board were looking at players that could be developed. To make a bit of ££ when selling them on? Its cynical, but 'cynical' really does seem to read 'truthful' now.
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People we really need to be relentless in getting these lying con men out, we really do. At some point maybe 'acceptance' potentially kicks in, but that is simply not an option, we have the power, and we need to stand up big time for what is right.
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Absolute disgrace, its a sham. They lied, the f*cking lied about Keegan saying yes or no. Whatever the f*ck else is said, that simply diminishes any credibility. FACT - YOU ARE NOT WELCOME, SELL UP.
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Do you not agree with this mate? I know everyone has their opinion about how to go about it btw, and everyones right in a different sense A boycott at the match of however period of time is a must imo. This one game is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things & when you look at the bigger picture, however it might feel. Not that this situation dosent say we cant win anyway. But it needs to be a unique message, and short & snappy. How many times has a 'chants inside the ground' protest been seen around England? A message needs to be sent that says 'we really mean business'. Even if theres just 20,000 inside the stadium, for KO or whatever, it would hit home a message harder than anything. 'Silence' is sometimes the most deafining noise. I suggest fans chanting & protesting outside the ground for the start of the game, and then make their way in after 10, 15mins. Mass of banners, relentess singning against the board outside Shearers. And people might say, 'but it makes no difference beacause I already I have a ticket so he has my money therefore it takes away the whole point of not bieng there/for the first 10mins whatever' but thats not the case at all, its about sending a message. Its saying 'THIS is what it will be like if you stay here, we may have paid for this game - but there will be the same empty seats next game WITHOUT the tickets bieng paid for'. A visual threat. We have to take this oppurtunity and make the most of it. And we have to be relentless.
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'Move on', to what? Lets search & fight for the right thing. Right now, that is having Ashely removed & KK re-instated imo.
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Not think enough people will stay away?
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A boycott at the match of however period of time is a must imo. This one game is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things & when you look at the bigger picture, however it might feel. Not that this situation dosent say we cant win anyway. But it needs to be a unique message, and short & snappy. How many times has a 'chants inside the ground' protest been seen around England? A message needs to be sent that says 'we really mean business'. Even if theres just 20,000 inside the stadium, for KO or whatever, it would hit home a message harder than anything. 'Silence' is sometimes the most deafining noise. I suggest fans chanting & protesting outside the ground for the start of the game, and then make their way in after 10, 15mins. Mass of banners, relentess singning against the board outside Shearers. And people might say, 'but it makes no difference beacause I already I have a ticket so he has my money therefore it takes away the whole point of not bieng there/for the first 10mins whatever' but thats not the case at all, its about sending a message. Its saying 'THIS is what it will be like if you stay here, we may have paid for this game - but there will be the same empty seats next game WITHOUT the tickets bieng paid for'. A visual threat. We have to take this oppurtunity and make the most of it. And we have to be relentess.
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To 'He's here, he's there' We're pissed! We're hurt! A Boycott is a cert! Ashley Out! Ashley Out! Not that it actually is a cert I know lol
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Exactly. Spot on imo too. NUFC needs a big character to take control, a big personality to cope with the pressure & connect with the club, aswell as bieng a good one. Keegan was and is the perfect manager for this club, in this current time anyway, we were lucky to have a manager as good as him. New owners, new manager...
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Please please please let this happen. Get them in, and have Keegan as manager, he hasnt left NUFC, hes left Ashley & his disgraceful team.
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Keegan.
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And what would be new about that? f*** them, f*** Sky, f*** the players, f*** Asshley and Co it is about time we stood up for ourselves and put ourselves first. I don't need to justify my support for my club by cheering on the players or turning up at the match, buying merchandise, wearing my colors etc. and neither do any of us so whatever we do our support for NUFC can never be in question or deemed unsupportive FFS. A full on boycott would send shockwaves throughout the world of football and would gain worldwide support from rival fans. I feel this is about the state of the game too and not just NUFC, as I'm sick of how both are being ran. If there is a full house as normal and just chants against Ashley I for one will give up hope in us as fans as this is a real opportunity for us to once and for all say enough is enough. Exactly, we have to look at the bigger picture.
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I.E. to try and get them going.... because believe it or not the best way to get new songs going is if groups of fans sing them - so what should happen? theres the leazes corner in the ground but any fans together remember - DO NOT sing any new songs, because erm... remind me why again please? So what your saying is fans who sit together who enjoy trying to get the atmosphere up shouldnt discuss new songs that are posted on here?
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_____________Milner____Butt____Jonas_________________ _____________________Owen_________________________ ________________Viduka_____Martins___________________
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What the f*** do they go to the match for then? A quiet w*** in the corner, followed by a grotty pie at half time? I'm not slating those who wanted to move for cheaper seats, but christ on a bike...will they join in with at least cheering the team and maybes the odd song? I think it's coz they've just been sat in a quiet area of the ground where not much singing/shouting etc. goes on. Over the years they've just became conditioned that way. I got a shock when I sat with them one game last season. As I was shouting random outbursts I was just getting looked at like I was an idiot. I was glad to be back in my seat next game. You never know, sitting with a louder part of the crowd might give them a new perspective on things. I hope so mate. Last season I was sat around the same types...being looked at as if I was mental. Just glad I can go along now and know that I wont look as much of a mental case, watch some football, get behind the team and have a bit of a sing song. Where abouts where you mate, nearer the milburn or away fans?
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Here here, I just dont understand someone rippin the corner when the whole reason it was created was because the whole ground has been dead for for ages now. The noise was really good in spells, good to see Keegan give a wave, it will definetely grow as the season goes on, just a shame others didnt join in sometimes. Good thing was that there wernt many negatives vibes from the stands yesterday, getting on the players back etc.