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____________________Given_____________________ Geremi________Cacapa____Rozenhal_________Enrique Milner_________Barton____Emre/Butt_________NZogbia ______________Viduka____Martins_________________ SUBS: Harper Taylor Butt/Emre Smith Owen

United Front or Toon Fanatics.

The atmosphere was embarassing under Robson and genuinly has been since the extension bar against the big teams.

Toon Fanatics

Here bloody here. Is he shagging someone at Sky... he is never off the bloody screen He is the understudy/right-hand man to Andy Gray & Richard Keys and a class pundit cant you see! Comes out with same crappy cliches and drivel about 'J fucking T' and strecthing it out as far as possbile. He must think he's an enthusiastic, superb pundit when what he is is an annoying twat who shags the big players.

Here bloody here.

Gallowgate End, give us a song... ci? its called the first home game of the season, the idea is to support the team through the 90 minutes? But nar I'll sit on my arse arms folded and be as quick as anything to be vocally negatively . A bit of positive noise is too much to ask for, even if it dosent cost a penny to just use your bloody lungs. Fact is you cant change people really, there can be as much build up/hype/positive talk about a better atmosphere as you want but at the end of the day its not going to change anything. To change the atmosphere the club have to bite the bullet and have the seating arrangements changed. It was an average performance but I just cant believe how flat the place was especially considering its the first home game. Is it really such a hard task to be positive for the 90 minutes, do people not want to help lift the players?? But again, you cant change people. Bloody booing, who the fuck would want to be the team off yest? How sad. But its a total culture of impatience in football which has been getting worse and worse. Demanding instance success, not forgiving any stumbles along the way, not really with the lads but demanding 5-0. Take the spurs fans, booing their players during the time, crisis time, total panic etc, then beating Derby and everything is so rosy 'Jol give us a wave', well bloody cheers its all good and well sticking with me and praising me when were winning, but a bit of togertherness and support during tough times would be a bit more appriated and make the good times a lot of satisfying!

I don't think anyone disagrees with you right there regarding the tactics. Yes we were set up differently to what we've been used to, and certainly differently to what would be ideal with the players we have. However, Allardyce is clearly still testing things out (as its different in competitive conditions), and is trying to learn as much about his players as possible (esp before the window shuts), without having to compromise results (namely defeat). Allardyce has said it himself, that he will be after results this season, and it is results only that will keep him his job. Any points picked up from any game, home or away, will do me personally. We will not be in Europe for playing attractive fluent football. We will get into Europe by collecting enough points to put us in a higher position than our closest rivals. As it stands, the longer we go unbeaten, the better. Tactics and best formations will follow. I'm not one to talk as I do not live in the UK, and dont attend matches, but I must say, the performance of the home crowd (for a first home game of the season) was rather underwhelming! Had the tv turned up to max and heard f*** all bar the odd shouts at Howard Webb. And don;t even get me started on the booing. As fans in the collective sense, we really have become an embarrassment at home, and home advantage is no longer that for the team. So people shouldn't be surprised we cant find that bit of extra push to beat teams like Villa at "home". *tin hat donned Absolutely spot on. Seconded.

N'Zogbia & Milner on the wings at home for me most times. Martins & Viduka upfront and I'd switch Geremi to RB keeping Butt in the centre when Barton returns.

:clap:good stuff from the club

Dyer & Jenas are the only ones I'd boo/give stick. How can anyone forgive Dyer for his 2 goal-line 'clearences' alone? And Jenas pranced about happy to play within himself hardly busting a gut in his last 2 years. Bowyer, Bramble, Sibierski, Parker all gave everything regardless of whether they had good games/bad games.

Edgar looks the most promosing for me, Huntington dosent look too great imo

Good point, seemed to be well up on the Parker stuff, wasn't that the game Carr and he had a rick with fans? Can't quite remember. The atmosphere thing was probably part of his game plan... Massive point. I cant for the life of me understand when fans start constantly whinging through the game getting on our own players back when you are playing into the oppositions hands! Managers will come to SJP and to to their players 'get the crowd edgy, get them nervous, force them to play it back and feed off the negative atmosphere' and we play right into it! Yes its not the be all and end all for the opposition but it damn well helps, helps them play with more confidence and freedom and they sense the Newcastle players getting nervous. But if there was constant support throught the 90 minutes it'd make it much harder for the opposition and indimidating for them, not us! And by consatnt support I mean at least allow the players play with maximum freedom, not afraid to make a pass due to fear of the wrath of the crowd, if you dont nessicarly sing songs.

Its about the impatience during the 90 minutes, not the attendance. It didnt really do much when we finished 3rd & 4th so Im not expecting it to be superb this season, but Im hoping so, especially with new owners, new start etc.

He's spot on & speaks the truth. For such a long time now Im at a match and cant believe the panic that sets into some supporters because we are playing poorly, and question their motives. Bottom line your either with the lads or your not. If you are, you wouldnt start shouting abuse when a player makes a bad pass or give knee-jerk reactions to results. But a lot of people seem to go enjoy going to the match to have a whinge, they must feel big. Well done, your big mate, you called lept out your seat and shouted how s*** Martins is supposedly, thats very big of you, give yourself a pat on the back on the way home. SBR deserved to see out his last year, but part of the reason he went was the panic that set in around the place. If everyone had sat back, realised that you know what, things arnt that bad and gave SBR the send off he deserved in his last year Shpeherd wouldnt have went against the fans and sacked him, but it was made easy for him because of the fans leaving a near-empty season on the lap of honour for finishing fifth.

Disrupting flow of game/causing unrest in home ends and winding down the clock. We were 3-1 up and comfortable, if they were allowed to build any momentum however, things could have become extremely uncomfortable. He did what I'm in no doubt was expected of him, from the bench. To go and jump all over Faye and be a complete nuisance in the most crudest of ways. Its a fair point like. But at the same time, youve gotta question why the hell cant he bust a gut more when running-jogging, altho thats the point, its not running, he just jogs. Im not saying why isnt he fast, but simply when have you seen him actually sprint?? I backed his case for a while personally and thought he got unfair stick to begin with, but he has had so many chances to shine since bieng here and hasnt taken them, he's been so poor for so long now imo, its crazy he's still here. Never seen Viduka sprint... I think people are being extremely harsh here, he came on for a few minutes, he's hardly figured in pre-season and hasn't played much football at all for more than 6 months, and people expect a player who isn't quick to start with, to start sprinting about chasing things? He's been like it long before his injury, he spends more time on the floor. He's basically went back-wards imo, I remember when he played some games under SBR when we finished third and he was a much better player and got too much stick then. But like I said, hes went backwards imo.

Disrupting flow of game/causing unrest in home ends and winding down the clock. We were 3-1 up and comfortable, if they were allowed to build any momentum however, things could have become extremely uncomfortable. He did what I'm in no doubt was expected of him, from the bench. To go and jump all over Faye and be a complete nuisance in the most crudest of ways. Its a fair point like. But at the same time, youve gotta question why the hell cant he bust a gut more when running-jogging, altho thats the point, its not running, he just jogs. Im not saying why isnt he fast, but simply when have you seen him actually sprint?? I backed his case for a while personally and thought he got unfair stick to begin with, but he has had so many chances to shine since bieng here and hasnt taken them, he's been so poor for so long now imo, its crazy he's still here.

Out of all these posts i cant belive that only a handful of posters has pointed out the most important thing he said in that entire article...bollocks to the signings, its the quote above. It show how ignorant nufc fans are when they are unable to assess the effects of there booing on a players performnace. In the end, we're all supporters and thats exactly what she should f****** doing. In my humble opinion you support till the very last second. People are quick to point out how "we are the best supporters in the world" its the same people who seem to forget that at times, we can also be the most destructive. Read the thread title mate, it tends to happen that people post about what the thread title is actually about. Yeh mate thanks for proving my point, thats exactly what i mean, an entire thread has been made out of one tiny 'quote' and the most important part of that article has been missed by so many. How can you call yourself a supporter if ya dont f****** support?? As a nufc fan and as most intellignet fans realise this is far more important than us signing 2 more players. Exactly, so true. For such a long time now Im at a match and cant believe the panic that sets into some supporters because we are playing poorly, and question their motives. Bottom line your either with the lads or your not. If you are, you wouldnt start shouting abuse when a player makes a bad pass or give knee-jerk reactions to results. But a lot of people seem to go enjoy going to the match to have a whinge, they must feel big. Well done, your big mate, you called lept out your seat and shouted how shit Martins is supposedly, thats very big of you, give yourself a pat on the back on the way home. SBR deserved to see out his last year, but part of the reason he went was the panic that set in around the place. If everyone had sat back, realised that you know what, things arnt that bad and gave SBR the send off he deserved in his last year Shpeherd wouldnt have went against the fans and sacked him, but it was made easy for him because of the fans leaving a near-empty season on the lap of honour for finishing fifth. - Its not rocket science is it?

Why is Ramage ahead of Edgar, whats the deal? I would of liked to ov seen Edgar play more pre season, he looks more talented than Ramage - he has composure on the ball which helps a lot if we are having to play someone out of position there.

reeeeet lol wye you get the message anyway!

No you dont, you dont have to be anything. If your a Newcastle fan who would love the atmosphere to be lifted then technically your 'an ultra'. Its not about 'be with them or be with us', its just about like minded fans making a positive difference and changing the atmosphere.

Here f****** here. Really sad like, its just a news channel they need to err calm down, they take themselves so seriously.

Nolberto

Ahead of who do ya reckon? Martins, Viduka? Martins will be off to the ACN, Viduka/Owen will have injuries all year. I reckon Smith will play in other positions, but more up front in total. Aye, chuffed we have him to play there now as a good strong striker to replace Viduka when needed, interesting to see who plays vs Bolton, whether Smith & Martins are in the same team.

I cant see Owen playing In that position personally, he dosent like running with the ball like he used to, wouldnt like getting back and I just dont think he'd play that position very well, unlike Smith or Milner.