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So the regime consists of the manager having to remind and educate the board every month about the footballing situation at the club? What would have happened if Kinnear hadnt called that 'emergency meeting'? And yes ask wise & llambias why you dont have any cover for LB & RB and a top quality centre midfielder, its what Keegan was asking the morning after deadline day after bieng assured selling Milner would mean more quality coming in!

Interesting that he blames KK - but they weren't his players either (perhaps bar Guthrie) The real protagonist here, Wise remains free from criticism. He should carry the can. Exactly, and Llambias it seems. Joe, your complaining about the same thing Keegan was complaining about! Why isnt there a bloody minutes, hours & days clock on SSN since the last time Wise/Llambias & co actually said anything?? There should be massive questioning about them in the media etc.

At a time when we have threads accusing the players of not giving a s***, it does seem ironic that one is getting slated for doing exactly that. Is it not more of a confidence thing with Enrique though? In the same way that booing the players isnt going to help, demostrating as openley and aggresiveley isnt going to help imo.

Full article: Do you not want to ask Dennis about what happened then?

The general support during home matches needs to be better and so much less hostile towards the players. More bloody encouragement for a good pass etc. But chants about Ashley etc would not effect the players, and would not be a 'serious lack of support'. Its getting on players backs straight away for some poor passes for example, booing them etc, thats what causes problems and makes the players afraid of a mistake. There needs to be more encouragement. But singing about Ashley is not going to effect the players in that way, there's nothing wrong/no bad effect of having both.

exactly; it's his job to motivate the players and choose the right strategy and tactics for them to win games. Exactly, surley any top manager would see it as a challenge to overcome & get the best out of them, and build them up.

The hostile atmosphere towards our own players against West Ham was terrible imo, like the booing of Geremi. Although any chanting about Ashley etc can be seperated from that.

What do you suggest fans do? And don't f***ing say support the team, they do that anyway, without fail. Unless there wasn't over 30K at home to Hull or thousands at Ewood Park. I'm not in favour of protests, not the kind witnessed at home to Hull last year anyway. Not because I disagree or anything like that, I just find them pointless unless there is some consistency. But something needs done, something needs to happen and fast. If we rely on the owner and his merry men to do something about the state of affairs then we really are f***ed. Boycott? A properly arranged one, like I say make him lower any asking price.

Exactly. 'Keegans lost it' etc etc.

Lower the asking price?

What a bloody mess. Explain that one then! How is the manager saying about one of his players currently negotiating a move to Besiktas and then the player later to say 'I dont know anything about leaving, I dont want to leave'. Is this suddenly an acceptable way to run the club & treat the players??

Its so cringeworthy. Redknapp is the worst pundit around, waffles on and on about the most obvious things, so false.

Like it matters. What do you possibly mean? Meh, i'm generalising tbh. Just feel a bit as if - whatever hope i had left - has just been thoroughly sapped with today's news about Kinnear. Aye i saw it coming but the reality of it hurts. I've always been for the academy policy so my opinion hasn't really changed on this - it's good that we've been doing it and a refreshing chance to the previous regime. We won't reap the rewards of any signing with this manager though. Yikes. I'm forming the thesis of an agenda here. Better go careful tbf. Fair enough, Kinnear hasnt inspired me at all, its yet another transistion season for us, its just good to see that there is actually good things happening at the club throuoguht the doom and gloom. When was the last time you saw the club make such an effort to look for the future of the club? Like i say, it's all just a total contradition. Whilst we're maintaining a focus on bringing young players in, we're appointing Joe f***ing Kinnear as permanent manager. As far as i'm concerned, with that clown, the future points to one direction - and that is ultimately down. Of course, by some point it'll get to breaking point and he'll have to sack him, but that doesn't represent any sort of consolation for me. If Ashley is serious, he would have chucked Kinnear, chucked Wise (no PL manager will work with that), and got someone decent in. I really, deeply wish that had happened - and signings like this one would get the credit they deserve. With things as they are though... pfft. As if it even matters. With respect to Kinnear, who's done some good while here, that really does sum up my feelings too.

You don't think perhaps he's been asked the same question as every other manager this week & answered it by pointing out we'll find out how good they are pretty soon? Still any excuse to be critical eh? Fair enough like, its about the context it was said it, whether he was just making an innocent comment or actually was moaning about bad luck. But like I said, the way he's gone on about the injuries, when most 1st teamers are available, you tend to think he was moaning, making excuses up already. ? Sorry, most of the players in the starting 11 against Hull were 1st team players.

You don't think perhaps he's been asked the same question as every other manager this week & answered it by pointing out we'll find out how good they are pretty soon? Still any excuse to be critical eh? Fair enough like, its about the context it was said it, whether he was just making an innocent comment or actually was moaning about bad luck. But like I said, the way he's gone on about the injuries, when most 1st teamers are available, you tend to think he was moaning, making excuses up already.

Thats actually not made up?? Bloody hell man, like you say, what message does that send out to the team? It was the same with 'injuries, injuries' when the team that finally did play against Hull had 7, 8 players who would start if everyone was fit anyway. Crappy excuses, smokescreen, Souness, and Roeder really, all over again.

Sounds familiar dosent it?

When is anything confirmed anymore? Im not suprised one bit that, after the manager has came out with something like that, nothing has been confirmed by the club - which says everything.

Aye and twats who continually slag the club off and angle for a move get what they deserve. Geremi?

So was club draining the life out of the fans when it finished 5th and there was booing? Had Laurent Robert drained the life out of the fans when he was booed? Had Carl Cort drain the life out of the fans when he was being ironically cheered off? Or when we'd finished 3rd the season before but when Gary Speed got bucket loads of stick? The fans were sh*t when we were doing well, but 5th place was a crisis wasnt it? Its ironic really, everyone kicks off at the 'mess' the club is 'in' around that period, so when the REAL mess comes along you could say its simply what some fans deserve when they couldnt appreciate better times, and that things wernt that bad when we finsihed 5th. Yes its a total mess, the way the club is bieng run is a shambles. But surley you should always be able to stand by and say 'at least we have magnificent support at SJP'. Is Geremi in charge of the club like? Yes I can understand frusration and annoyance, but surley the fact that a player is wearing a black & white shirt should put a barrier up in your mind not to go far as to boo that player, when he's your player. Souness was right, 20,000 supporters, 30,000 customers. (and thats bieng kind)

Nah, good passes are always well applauded. By, what, 10 fans? Theres loads of times someone like Enrique will play some nice one-two's, win some tackles, and its dead silence, as if its expected. But a mistake, oh no massive noise needs to be made for that, is it any suprise some players dont want the ball? Booing players after a mistake man ffs, so fickle, sh*t support thats what it is. Lets play at SJP if front of this sh*t support, who love to give us grief & boo when we (we bieng Real Madrid of course) make mistakes. If only we could take the piss out of other fans like Arsenal who have sh*t support at home, and boo their own players. Shame we're no different.

Whats the point man, wheres the heart and soul of football. Booing players for mistakes, booing the whole team when the ball goes out, I thought that when it all comes down to it, at least you can be proud of the support given by the fans, not anymore. Do people think we're Real Madrid? The ground is filled with hostility so easily, yet hardly a peep is made for a good pass most of the time.

Nice dive by Young there.

No, I'm saying you're trying to suggest that people think that is the case when clearly no one does, then saying other peoples' arguments are stupid & hilarious. Oh yes, its so 'hilarious', so do you think people would come on here, read through the thread, and genuinly be laughing, because its so so 'hilarous' & 'comedy gold'? You probably need to read back & see who called who hilarious. Yeah, thats twice it was used, and whats the point? And like these responses to a thread with just simply ' ' . Whoever did anyway, cant remember who, What the point? Why not just talk normally and say what you agree/disagree with without coming accross snobby by doing that and giving cheap remarks about 'scummy' people in there etc? You have to be taking the piss? For what it's worth, I haven't called anyone scummy either. Here we go, okay so I havent been talking normally have I not? When I say talk normally, I mean talking without that cocky/snobbish slant. I suppose Im still 'talking the piss ' Aye I cant remember the name of who, but whoever did, whats the point in stereotyping people like that? By talking normally I meant stringing coherent sentences together. Aye wye, na Im not talking the piss, even though that, if you are looking to take the piss, it is ironic I said that considering my inability to write decent english. But like I said, I didnt say that on the basis of whether you can string coherent sentances together or not, even if you are rubbish at stringing coherent sentances together, like me, I'm on about giving an opinion & having a debate, not pointless cocky posts like 'oh comedy gold' & ' '

The post was moronic at best. How? People are just giving honest opinions & get responses like ' comedy gold ' all cocky & snobby, whats the point?