Boey_Jarton

My memory is a bit hazy but I don't remember him actually serving up shit performances or making lots of mistakes. He was pretty solid if not unspectacular, then got injured at old Trafford and seemed to disappear with eczema.

Man City draws need to start being questioned. Get a bye to the final most years.

Love the bloke. Still a leader and good on the ball. But if we play him, we have to accept that there will be moments like the second goal, where he was like a Vauxhall Corsa towing a six berth caravan.

Best teeth in the premier league.

How they both managed to fuck that up so badly was ridiculous

Thiaw has been threatening that all game.

The length of time before Ampadu's throw ins is absolutely ridiculous.

Thiaw been smoking crack

At the risk of saying something positive, we have seen this game out really well.

Miley composure and ball retention putting our other players to shame

Sunderland intensity was excellent and they deserved to get something out the game. Their pitch however is a complete joke - surprised that is allowed in the premier league in 2025. Like Arthur Fowler's allotment.

Outstanding footballer

Can someone tell the clapping seal to stop please

Eddie Howe do something please

Never seen a ref so disinterested in awarding fouls than this guy. For both teams.

Master of the fast-paced first time pass to absolutely nobody

No pen because he was already committing another foul using that same unnatural position.

One of those keeps where you are perennially asking yourself "should be have saved it?". Sometimes it's unfair but it's the fact he never really seems to save anything except shots that are straight at him.

I partially agree but that's a strange example to reference as being an incident nobody cares about. The 1-0 Newcastle win against Arsenal is universally recognised as one of the most controversial refereeing performances in premier league history in our favour and against Arsenal. That is despite there being zero legitimate grounds to disallow Gordon's goal. And the two red cards you reference - presumably one relates to Havetz's knee high lunge on longstaff? On balance, I think Newcastle fans (on here at least) are pretty reasonable at accepting borderline decisions and usually critique the team and manager first before blaming officials. The hysterical conspiracists only seems to appear when we play well against a good team and deserve to win, but for a bad decision. Compare that to Arsenal's loss at SJP where they were shit, had not shots on goal and deserved to lose.

You can think refs are not systematically corrupt whilst also thinking yesterday's game was poorly refereed and cost us a win. The Schar incident is fair to call out, as on balance I think it's a penalty, but EPL refs consistently enforce the rule that you can clatter the attacker once they shoot wide. The Gordon decision simply lacks any mitigation and is baffling.

Shielding is impossible when you are on the wrong side of the opponent and have to strike said opponent to reach the ball.

This is exactly it. The initial contact is with force and on Gordon's knee. The upper body only connects afterwards.

The initial contact on Gordon is with excessive force and below knee height. Gordon's knee buckles to the point it hits his other leg. The upper body contract that follows bizarrely helps Chabolah as the ref and VAR officials just assume it was a shielding action.

Miley fucking hell what a player

Along with Thiaw, our POTS so far. Made of granite and never gets injured.