bobbydazzla

Which ballots ? As I'm completely locked out of Away games I don't pay that much attention to them Isn't Away games done on points accumulated, then if it drops below a certain level ST holders with no / low points can apply and attempt to build their points ? Or are you on about Home ballots ?

Aye, but you could make that same argument in any number of circumstances. "I have a Season Ticket but my job and family commitments means I can't go to many away games. Why should people who can invest their time and money to go to every away game have priority over me for Makems away, or a cup final ?" If someone was proposing that argument, most people would quite rightly tell them to get to fuck.

Have you had a look at the Chelsea scheme ? In simple terms; Members build points by going to games. The less attractive or further away the game, the more points they get. When it comes to Cup Finals, Away Games, Season Ticket waiting list, there's a minimum number of points required. So a member that goes to loads of games, gets priority over members who don't. But they won't get priority over someone with an ST who's been going to all league and cup games. Currently, our scheme means it doesn't matter if a member went to 19 league games and all cup games, they're at the same level of priority as someone on the opposite end of the scale who might have paid a £40 fee, clicked on a ballot entry once and has never set foot inside SJP. The Chelsea scheme for members is the same methodology as our scheme for ST's: People who go to the most games, getting recognition and priority over ones who don't.

They've got 30,000 ST's who get cheaper tickets than members and also don't spend any money on anything but peeve. Maybe their end game is remove all ST's and make every game available to any punter who fancies it. That'd put the cat amongst the pigeons.... First they came for the Mags members, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Mags member. Then they came for the Mags+ members, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Mags+ member. Then they came for the Corporate Box tickets for Wembley, and I did not speak out— Because I was not in a Corporate Box. Then they came for me and my Season Ticket —and there was no one left to speak for me.

I'd like NUFC to explain why they can't / won't implement a scheme like Chelsea, or Spurs A group of members meets the club and actually show them those schemes and say "talk us through why we can't have something like that please" What is their logic to have one set of fans (ST's) holding all the aces and the members getting nothing in return for making the effort to attend games. Many members attend all 19 games exactly like ST holders do, the only difference is that they pay for their 19 tickets up-front (often paying less than members) and have the same seat every time It makes no sense to me to have the current bare bones scheme. They would get some much more positivity by putting in place something like Chelsea's, it's such an easy PR win for the club If there's reasons why they can't do it, then it'd be nice to know what those reasons are

If they can find 3 bags of gear for £100 at 5am on a Sunday morning then that annual fee is well worth it

For all lads and lasses getting pissed off at a shit ticket buying IT system that constantly fucks up and gets you stressed beyond belief, spare a thought for us members who have to deal with this utter wank every few weeks

Erect Members for the people without ST's who go in Safe Standing

One thing that people like yourself may not realise is that you & your son could link memberships with someone who knows how to be successful in 10am member sales That person buys their own ticket and also buys one for you and your son too. I've done this many times That's the sort of thing I mean when I say people have to be savvy, there's workarounds and loopholes that mean you could never miss a match, but you've got to find out what they are It's not ideal to have to rely on others, but it'd get you to games

As you know I think our membership scheme is shite. But it's not actually a raffle as there's a group of us who've got tickets for every game, every season. You have to be savvy, you probably need a desk job where you manage your own diary and at times it can be relentlessly dull repetitive effort (my F5 key still hates me after last season) I've never failed to get a ticket for every game and also helped loads of other people to get tickets, that's not luck, there's been a process to it. But it's best suited to people who have acute Fear of Failure syndrome and can ADHD hyperfocus

NUFC can dress it up however they want, but our membership is just a one-off fee that gives you access to the possibility of buying a ticket and some retail discounts that no-one is that arsed about

Fine print is here https://www.chelseafc.com/en/loyalty-points You definitely don't have to go Away to maintain a season ticket, my pal has had a Chelsea ST for 30+ years and hardly ever goes away edit: from what I've just read, to apply for a new Season Ticket you just have to have the minimum number of loyalty points and you're in the mix. How you've accumulated those points doesn't matter. But you get more points for travelling further to less attractive fixtures

If the glue sniffers in our Ticketing Team had the gumption to build a similar scheme based on what appears to be Chelsea's fair and sensible approach and then they announced it to the fans, I'd think I was the one who'd huffed a load of Bostik and was trippin my tits off

As much as I despise Man Utd with every fibre of my being, I’ll begrudgingly say fair play to them, in 2023 they just turned up for the game, won it, celebrated, went home happy. Clinical, if you want to call it that Whereas we celebrated for 24 hrs pre-match, didn’t turn up for the game either in the stands or on the pitch, then went home hungover and gutted. The occasion seemed to a bigger focus than winning the cup Understandable as we win nowt and they win loads, but I’d rather we don’t get overexcited until the game and instead just turn up to Wembley, go ballistic and win it this time

Elements of Man City’s crowd are absolutely tragic Last night they’d lost to a last gasp Madrid goal and just after the ball hit the onion bag, the telly camera panned in on a Man City fan who had his phone up, nonchalantly filming Madrid players celebrating And the ridiculous fucking LED’s are so big most people in the ground are dazzled into blindness and can’t even see what’s happening on the pitch

Did I just watch a Man City fan stand nonchalantly and film the Madrid players celebrating Or am I trippin cos my bedtime mug of Horlicks got spiked

Recent membership history is... Season 21-22 (post-takeover): bit hazy memory, but I think very soon after takeover they they closed off memberships. I know for that season I got tickets via a pal with an ST who could buy an extra Season 22-23: they closed off memberships without warning people they were going to do it, locking out anyone who hadn't already signed up Season 23-24: unlimited memberships, sold all season Season 24-25: Mags+ has just been closed off, normal memberships still available at 50% discount from Feb 25 1000 x ST's were put on sale in the summer of 22, other than that there's been nowt I reckon I've spent £3-4,000 on tickets since 21-22, I've bought tickets for every game I've been able to go to (90% I reckon), I've spent untold hours battling a shit IT system. And I've got precisely nothing to show for my commitment to attending games A punter who has applied for 1 x ballot and might never have actually been to a single game in their life has the same level of priority as me, in the clubs eyes

And I totally get the logic of this, but if you're not going to release any ST's then at least provide some form of tiering for members to earn a level of priority via attendance Yesterday's announcement just emphasised that we've got a massively segregated system based on someone's willingness to hold onto their ST under Ashley If you've got an ST the club see you as a valued customer, but without an ST they don't give a fuck, you're stuck at the bottom of the pile with no way of raising your status

Anything that leads to some open discussion with the club about the frustration of memberships is worthy of having. We've currently got a group of fans who are pouring substantial amounts of money, time and effort into getting to home games and they get nothing in the way of recognition for this. The club won't give us a chance of buying ST's or even getting on an ST waiting list. They won't give us any form of priority over members who attend from time to time. And in this latest instance we've been completely cut out of the reckoning for Wembley tickets I've said this in another thread, but there'd be hell on if the lads & lasses with ST's who travel the millions of miles to follow us home and away, were put on the same level of priority as a ST holder who didn't even go to a single cup game. It's quite right that the ST holders who put the most effort in are recognised by the club and get the most back. Why can't we have the same for members ?

It’s not pot luck this season, there’s 3 x official ways to get a ticket - ballot - member general sale - ST resale And connected Friends & Family can buy tickets for each other, so people can help each other out I’ve never failed to get a ticket for pretty much every game since the takeover. And this season has been much easier than last season. If we had some sort of Member Loyalty scheme in place, people who put in the effort to secure home tickets would have a better chance of a cup final ticket than someone who just clicks the ballot from time to time and hopes for the best

Given that new season tickets don’t exist and there’s no waiting list etc I can’t see how it remains fair to keep prioritising season ticket holders without creating some sort of scheme to allow members to build up a better chance of a final or away game ticket We’ve basically just got the same 30 odd thousand people who held onto their tickets during Ashley having an opportunity to elevate their chances of getting a ticket by attending certain games. They’re not all viewed as one group and to some extent they can move between groups Whereas the rest of us are just lumped into one massive group, regardless of how little or often we go to games If ST holders were told today that it was one pot for all ST’s, the lads & lasses trekking billions of miles to follow us home and away would quite rightly be furious about that. But the equivalent scenario is what’s just happened to any members who attend all games

Gonna pull a shitload of strings in an attempt get a ticket, cos I’ve got no chance via the fucking allocation system If all fails then I’m flying to Berlin for the weekend and I’ll watch it with some fellow NE29’ers over there

Correct You’d have to get very creative to source an away end ticket, you couldn’t buy one through legit means and it’d be risky for someone to buy one then pass it on to you