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I would never have assumed that tbh, never even thought of it. It's a bit far-fetched.

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That 0-0 Manc derby messed up several bets for me. I thought +0.5 was a given, too!

29, actually. 0 goals, 0 clean sheets, 2 assists.

Only in football does a paedophile not get his comeuppance. He'll be having a great night while us non-fiddlers are crushed.

No, but did they face 6 of last year's top 8 in their first 8? Plus West Ham, who seem to be beating everyone. I'm not saying we're going to crack the top 10, just that we've had the toughest start out of everyone and that we're starting to improve. If we mess up this good run of fixtures, then it's time to panic.

Good teams win games. They mostly do. We know there were extenuating circumstances today. Even the shite team of the past 5 derbies stayed up.

We were going to win until the huge handicap of 1-0 down with 10 men. In most cases that's game over. Compared with the previous five, we played much better.

I've always hated the penalty/straight red combo* and today proved why. Even if it's the right decision - obviously todays was shambolic - it changes the game significantly. Too much ruined by one decision. * unless it's a handball on the line.

It depends what Stoke turns up, they're very patchy. But if we turn up and play our game we'll be fine.

It doesnt get much worse than this prick today. We had no chance of winning when this bloke is out to make a name for himself. Not booking ANY of their lot was bordering on criminal, especially Cattermole. Assault after assault he gives nothing but can't wait to send Colo off for a nudge. Demotion isn't enough for this piece of shit.

Oh aye, at times he was like a brick wall.

I like him more after today, actually. Best derby performance in years (not much competition!) and he can't help that the ref was incredibly biased towards them. He seemed to care, we played good stuff and he told the truth post-match. Starting Tiote wasnt great but I could cope with that - Anita isn't particularly great either.

We were fine today, the only problem is that it brings the mackems right back into it. But we're a good team.

Looked alright until their third. Definitely gets the blame for that.

Shame about that chance but he was good in the air today, probably our most likely scorer.

He was so good, all those meet-and-greets around their lot. Dribbles the ball out of defence and never looks like losing it. A very classy player who deserved better today.

Cannot stand Colo but that was never a red card, probably not a pen. He's a prick but this was all about the referee.

I'll be seething for a long time - that decision voided the game as far as I'm concerned. None of this 6-in-a-row bollocks. We were dominant and well on the way to winning when that absolute scumbag referee decided to make a name for himself. Not just that ludicrous penalty, but letting all their tackles go without a single yellow. Cattermole's assaults still brought nothing. It was one of the most biased refereeing performances I've ever seen. He wasn't even hiding it. This one doesn't count.

I'll barely scrape 30 this week, an absolute wipeout.

On FM, he's had us and Partizan as 'Favourite clubs' for a while. I think it's Shearer-related.

Is this the time of night where both sides say the other will win? The polite pre-derby ultra-modest jinxing

Not enough gegenpressing, I think.

Last week, Pardew debates Gayle's pretty unanimous sending off. This week, he wants to fight the lovely Tinkerman. More rattled than the local branch of Mothercare.

Starting fights yet again