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Mata wasn't in the Guardian's top 100 last year and was 78th in FourFourTwo's. He scores a pointless 90th minute goal against Sunderland and a pen against Wolfsburg and all of a sudden Froggy has him cruising into the top 20. Unbelievable.

Mata has been shite for Man Utd. He's a dwarf legged waddler who flukes reasonable numbers with goals/assists against garbage outfits despite never controlling a football match since he moved there. De Gea Pique Ramos Alba David Silva Iniesta Busquets Koke Cazorla Fabregas Alonso Thiago Alcantara Xavi Pedro Diego Costa All better than Mata and that's just Spain.

Spain have got at least 10 players better than Mata on their own.

But like you say Austria have already qualified and Montenegro are still scrapping for play-offs. It was only 1-0 in Vienna as well.

:lol:

Nowt between them really. Both made up of lower Prem and upper Championship players. With the exception of perhaps Coleman and McCarthy, none of either squad could cut it at good CL level clubs. They're small countries so they're obviously not going to produce loads of talent. But the thing is they'd probably be better off with 1 or 2 top quality players and a load of shite than what they currently have which is ~25 ordinary footballers. Scotland are living proof that graft over quality is a fallacy. You'd be better off having some genius dragging the shite along with him. Look at Bale for Wales. Or when George Weah nearly got Liberia to a world cup.

what a way to damn with faint praise :lol:

Cavani is frustrating as fuck. Can't stand watching him for PSG at times. Too inconsistent to be a top 10 for me. Absolutely fantastic on his day though I agree he's not top 10 or whatever but people constantly make out that he's shit. He scored 31 goals last season despite playing out of position for Ibrahimovic half the time. There's also this thing about him apparently flopping against English teams in Europe, but he has 5 in 8 in the CL against City and Chelsea.

Why does everybody hate Cavani. Poor cunt has been playing out of position since he signed for PSG and still been prolific. He'd walk into any PL team.

Dunga is fucking shite. It's like England reappointing Capello.

Croatia is smaller than Scotland and their midfield all play for Barca and Madrid ffs.

But why can't Scotland can't produce a player like that. They used to produce world class players, now they don't. They've perfected producing a squad of 25 average try hard shitcunts.

Scotland just have absolutely no quality whatsoever. Squad full of average players. If they could develop just one Champions League level player they'd have a chance.

Andy Frog is crap. Consistently a liability for Inter.

Would have him over Colback and Anita

Haven't watched them play. They any good? Or are you talking about Jorginho the ''Italian''? Allan is great, i'm surprised he's not in the frame for a full call up. Jorginho is nowt special. But it's not really about how good they are but how they're playing, passing and controlled possession football. I'm just so used to Brazilian midfielders being big units who don't seem to want to do owt with the ball.

Love Insigne

weird watching Napoli's Brazilian midfielders play little 1-2s with each other. Shock to the system having Brazilian midfielders play football rather than just be useless big units.

Sanchez might not be as rounded, but he's a far more entertaining player than Hazard is IMO.

Carrick pinging the ball straight out of play there. Laughable how limited he is compared to somebody like Cazorla.

We lost 6-1 for cunts sake

Since 2008 we've only bought Cisse and Santon from the top four leagues in Europe. Colback/Gosling/Campbell etc were frees and obviously Obertan isn't a human let alone a footballer so doesn't count. Clearly this is a problem. There's undoubtedly good players everywhere, but when your entire transfer policy is built around the fringes of European football and specifically only a handful of those fringes it is gonna be problematic simply through a law of averages. I wrote a pretty scathing post about our transfer policy on here recently, but this is another general trend that's worth noting.

Fuck off you cunt.

I've never seen a bigger fucking joke than this collection of players and management. It all stems from the top, and the attitude and organisation is just embarrassing on a weekly basis. Derby 2008 were less hopeless than us.

Sorry like, but we're the most relegated team I've ever seen. Absolute garbage.