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Ain't nobody lower than us. I thought he meant sides in lower leagues. Like Sheff Wed for example.

This. It won't be pretty but they won't go down if they appoint him.

Thought he was totally anonymous once more and the game just seemed to pass him by and of the 3 newspapers I have read today his merit marks were 3/10, 3/10, 4/10 so the reporters seemed to be in agreement with that.

What makes you think the next manager will be any better given the last 3 managers Ashley appointed before McClaren (Kinnear, Pardew, Carver)? For me the appointment of a good manager in the summer was crucial given how we ended last season and the huge TV money for next season but we got another cheap, English option. This is how it is until Ashley's gone. People need to wake up to that fact. Nothing is going to change on or off the pitch until he's gone. The last 8 years tells us that.

Given that we can't sack all of the players our only hope is to get someone in to motivate this rabble to roll their sleeves up when it gets a bit tough. McClaren is bereft of any motivational skills, he has no presence and no charisma. He didn't want to come in the first place which suggests to me he didn't believe he had what it would take to make it work. He'd been in contact with Carr for a good while beforehand and no doubt been told what the players were like to work with. He eventually came because we were stupid enough to appoint him once he been sacked for failing to instil belief in a wobbling Derby team. He has to go, we are 5 points from safety already, give it another 5 or 6 games and it will be too late. That seems to be the Mackem model to keep on changing manager instead of looking at the bigger picture and they're no better off than us. McClaren probably isn't the answer as most of us predicted but the problems at the club lie far deeper. He goes and we get another loser in and we're no better off. Until we rid ourselves of Ashley and his merry men this will always be where we're at. A losers mentality running right through the club and 2nd rate foreign plodders with hearts the size of peas recruited by a dinosaur of a chief scout. Ashley could have went for a top manager in the summer but they don't come cheap and wouldn't want Carr buying their players for them either so yet again we went for the cheap yes man, just like his last 3 appointments before him. No reason to think McClarens replacement would be any better than Kinnear/Pardew/Carver.

Allardyce or Pearson I reckon.

It's not the managers fault that the players collapsed like a deck of cards yesterday because they've got no backbone. They are adults and they are professional players. Conceding 5 goals in 13 minutes will rarely happen in schoolboy football, let alone supposedly the best league in the world (copyright sky sports). To absolve them of any blame is daft.

We're there because we're currently the worst team in the league. We were one of the worst teams in the league last season as well and only had our safety guaranteed on the final game. We've won 3 times in 2015. Maybe this squad of players just aren't as good as you think they are?

Lose the next 2 and I reckon that's it. No leadership anywhere at the club from the owner, right through the boardroom to the captain on the pitch and the other 10 tarts who aren't fit to pull the shirt on (well maybe not Mitrovic and Perez).They won't have the heart or the fight to pull us out of it and once we're well adrift, which is where we're heading, we'll stay there.

We got beat 6-1 man. Luckily they declared at 6. They scored the fastest 5 goals in premier league history as we waved the white flag and folded like a pack of cards. Stop trying to polish a turd man you're only kidding yourself.

Nah there'll be bairns reading this no doubt.

This is our worst ever start in PL history. Our worst start since the 1800's! We certainly (and didn't) wouldn't be doing any worse under Pardew which says all you need to know about McClaren and this group of imposters out on the pitch. No point in typing what I think about Ashley because the swear filter would make it unreadable.

If Pardew was still manager (with Carver as assistant) we'd have more points than we have now. I can't be more damning of McClaren than that.

Should never got the job but he's the standard of manager we can expect from Ashley who has also delivered us Kinnear, Pardew and Carver. The one decent manager he did appoint soon got sick and walked. Today was just another in a long line of thrashings we've been been on the wrong end of during the Ashley regime and there'll be many more to come. Just glad I packed my season ticket in and am not paying into this farce any longer.

If McClaren smiles at the post match press conference I may well have a walk along to the training ground on Monday morning and kick the living daylights out of him.

Says a lot about Pulis when his team is being totally out passed by a Pardew side. He's a shocking manager, even more negative than Pardew which takes some doing. They're just not trying to play at all. Mind whoever decided to televise a Pardew v Pulis match wants hauled in front of his manager to explain on Monday morning.

Couldn't agree more. The bloke is a complete ar$ehole.

Man City and Sunderland both built stadiums too big for their fanbase hence all the cheap and free tickets they dish out. It's what happens when supply outstrips demand. Suppose it's better than the rows of empty seats you would often see at both stadiums but on the other hand it lessens the value of the season ticket somewhat.

Not in terms of goals he won't. He's got no strikers instinct whatsoever. I think because he's been out for a while people forget how bad he is. in terms of general play he will, cisse has downed tools imo. Tend to agree but ultimately as a striker you are there to score goals and that is what they are judged on. Even in his current form I'd back Cisse over Rivière all day if the ball fell to either of them in the box. Can't really work out why we signed him as he was hardly prolific in France. Another Graham Carr masterstroke by the looks of it.

Not in terms of goals he won't. He's got no strikers instinct whatsoever. I think because he's been out for a while people forget how bad he is.

It'll be worse than League 2 standard. Some of the teams aren't even full time.

Agreed. Probably equates to around £2.5m a season which is a decent chunk of money. He'll have Sports Direct stores that barely turn over that amount in a year. Thought it would have dropped off more than that tbh. Anyone in any doubt about how many season ticket holders have chucked it just need to look at the stadium plan for the Norwich game which only looks around 50-55% occupied at the minute so clearly a lot of ex season ticket holders are still turning up but just paying match by match.

Seen quite a bit of him recently as he's probably the most in form player in the French League at present. Must say he looks a class act. Normally I would say we should try to sign him up (especially with him being French) but I very much doubt we could convince a talent like that to come and sign for perennial relegation battlers such as ourselves.

Tbf you've just made all that up. What a daft generalisation!

Over 52,000 there for the corresponding fixture last season which was also live in the box.