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Can already sense the fan base stressing on socials about transfers and losing out on players. It’s going to be a long window for some people if they’ve started this uptight.

Great news. He’s been the best centre back in my lifetime. Keeping him another year - especially during this rebuild phase - makes total sense.

Came to post this Weird we’re not in for him

Wow Liverpool haven’t fucked around here have they? Fair play.

I don’t want to get into this too much because he’s gone and similar to the Howe in/Howe out phase at the end of the season people were wedded to their standpoint. But did this actually happen? His form definitely dipped like others. I’ve mentioned already I don’t think the change in position helped him. Similar to TAA who thought he was a midfielder when he should have been focused on being a better full back. Internally he has had massive support and backing. Nothing from the players, manager, club side suggested he was ever self interested on the pitch or anything other than committed. The last 3 games seemed to have been a club/managerial position. It’s certain sections of the fan base that seemed to snowball on him on the back of his interviews. “Heard turned by Liverpool” when in hindsight it was the club trying to flog him to solve PSR issues. Hes definitely arrogant and backs himself to succeed but it’s rare top players aren’t like that. I just feel he’s been given a rough ride on the back of things that lack foundation. I’m not mega sad he’s left mind as without repeating myself too much I think it’s time and it’s a good deal all round.

I disagree that he’s been poor for large parts of the last two seasons. He’s definitely had periods where he’s been off. It’s mostly been this season for me though and despite being a big fan of Howe I think a lot of it was his fault. He didn’t adapt from losing Isak and Gordon started the season as a forward. I know Gordon views that as a successful stint but I think he’s a shite there and the experiment not only hindered Gordon’s form it took him a while to settle back into being a wide player where he should have been looking to make that England position his. I think it also delayed Howe figuring out solutions to our forward problems and meant we’ve dithered at this sub standard all season. Im not here saying he hasn’t been poor at times because he absolutely has just like everyone else. Hes also had periods this year where he’s been the best player but a lot of people decided to ignore it given these strongly held beliefs they’d assigned to him. It was only the last 3 where he was fit and in the squad where Howe chose not to play him with this imminent transfer? I sort of see the logic in and again it seems to have been a managerial call rather than a player one.

The revisionism here man Isak was awful during the run in and it nearly cost us Champions League football. Everyone at the time thought he was carrying an injury he was that bad until we found out he was being a fanny behind the scenes telling people he wanted to leave. Callum Wilson was kicking off about it and alluded to this going on behind the scenes and Isak still getting picked over him. A lot of the people “not comfortable” with Gordon’s send off are the people that seemed have attached to the made up narratives about him. He was undeniably poor in phases during this season but you could label that on every single player in our team. Cracking send off from the club and a genuinely lovely leaving video from Gordon. It’s exactly how it should be when all parties have benefited.

Random point but it feels good all parties being so positive about it. Good send off message from Gordon, good fee for us even though he’s a significant player. business was done efficiently. A win for all parties. Good luck to the lad I hope he has a great World Cup and career over there.

On his day he’s a relentless presser, direct, plays early balls quickly into the forward and drives on. Caused chaos in the back line given how tenacious he can press. I never felt he was mega threatening on goal cutting inside despite bagging a few goals like that. Hes not that clinical - unless it’s from the penalty spot where he’s consistently reliable. He seems to dip in form against smaller teams and when the crowd hasn’t been right up for it he doesn’t seem the same player. He can lose the ball often and definitely has spells where his head goes down. Hes not one to carry a team but in a pressing system with good players he fits in. He noticeably got worse when Isak left for example. Overall I can’t see it not working for him assuming he’s backed.

Decent fee. He’s been a good player for us and it should be recognised more I feel. We wouldn’t have won the cup without his semi-final performances. I like him but he didn’t lend himself to us like Bruno has. I don’t think the fan base really appreciates him enough either. I’ve don’t think he threatens the goal enough nor do I think he sets enough up for other players. His pressing and tenacious play is next level though and when he’s on it he’s really on it. He was a perfect winger for someone like Isak. It’s definitely time to move on though. Good move for us, decent fee and a fucking great move for Gordon. Everyone has won here really. Good luck to him. Thanks for everything Gordon!

Rashford in the mud if this happens then?

There’s no way we’re selling for £60m I see all of the shills in the media are trying their best though

Barca will want to break it down into 500k instalments a year. I hope it provokes Bayern into doing something faster.

Or the state of our fanbase when we decide to turn on a player on some random made up stuff

If this continues I reckon we could end up with a really nice fee for him. I like him. I think he’s a really good winger in a pressing side but his best attributes are the physical/tenacity side of his game - and his pens I guess. All of them will decline the later he gets into his career. We could do some really good business here.

Savinho would be an ideal Gordon replacement. I think he’d fit in Howe’s system better than Pep’s

Still can’t understand why he seems to be first on the chopping block for Howe but I imagine we’ll sell at that price.

Why are people still debating Howe? It’s done. We’ve all given our opinion one way or another 20 times or so over the last few months. The club have decided to stick with him into next season and it’s really hard to justify him not being given another shot. Losing to Fulham seems to have set the Howe out lot off like it’s actually going to make a difference to a decision already made. The important thing to debate is summer recruitment, how efficient this lot can be and what heap off shit in that squad needs moving on first. I guarantee Howe won’t be here by Christmas after another window if we start the season how we’ve performed during this one.

You’ve seen them play as well though right? We’re not aspiring to be that and if we are (as a fan base) something has gone wrong. This aftermath is just a collective pissing the bed.

Even on the eye test they’re shite. Good season for them and they’ve ground out some cracking results but some of you lot need to settle down like.

Shite performance and one that adequately portrays the season. The squad in its iteration has expired and we need some really significant buys to see an upturn next season. If anything it should demonstrate to the board what’s needed to be done so it won’t be repeated. We’ll be back next year I’m confident. I’m so fucking pleased this season is done though.

Been quiet the last couple of weeks like this thread though right?

Fair play to them. Cracking season but I still think they’re shite like most of the mid table teams. I’d be surprised if they do it again next year but they’ve proven a lot of people wrong this time round.

Random but I really miss belting out the Rafa Benitez chant when we’re seeing out a win. “Fuck off Wijnaldum, Shevley and Perez… Rafa Benitez, RAFA BENITEZ!” In my head 24/7 post good result